No one wins

Contributed by: Barbara

Feeling sentimental these last few weeks. Remembering last year at this time that on May 19, 2008 I was in Kentucky celebrating my birthday with the woman I believed would be our next President. We were celebrating the next day’s primary win, as all polls indicated a blow out… again, how many had Hillary won in a row? Pennsylvania and West Virginia. Land slide victories.

How many of us were so unaware that the Democratic Party was about to make the first of many of the most undemocratic rulings in its history?

Amongst the calls for “It’s over” and “Hillary drop out” all while winning landslide victories and Nancy Pelosi’s “scorched earth” comments and super delegates “changing their minds” because they believed their constituents who voted for Hillary were incapable of…well….voting.

 We heard the media bias, sexism and misogyny. We heard the calls of racism again and again and again. We saw the caucus fraud again and again and again. We saw the long line of “party first” members and the ever growing line of “under the bus, we don’t need you as members if you’re not going to fall in line”

 Yep, we saw it and heard it all, those who were paying attention.

 Yet we were believing the DNC would do the right thing on May 31, 2008.

We believed the party of inclusion would be the party of inclusion and include the votes of the citizens in Fl and MI.

We believed the party of fair, honest and open elections would be the party of fair, honest and open elections.

 How wrong we were.

We watched FL and MI who voted for HRC become half voters, I guess if you’re and optimist it’s better than the long primary run we FL and MI voters had as “You do not count at all voters”. So I became a half voter Hmmmm?  Thanks Donna, but why not a whole voter?

Then we watched something I hope to God I never witness again. We watched as the Democratic rules committee took votes away from one candidate and gave them to another candidate. Donna Brazile smiling told us “the rules are the rules” WTF?

 Translation Obama needs votes in order to win the nomination that the DNC wants him to win, Hillary has the votes needed to win the nomination But the DNC does not want Hillary to be the nominee so we will take some of Hillary’s votes and give them to Obama.

So shut up and fall in line and if you don’t fall in line…well… we do not need fanatical, hysterical, sore losers screaming about the lack of democracy in the Democratic Party besides you’re a racist.

 I left the Democratic Party that day and spent the summer under the bus. I sadly still believed that in August on the floor of the Democratic Party convention, Democracy would prevail. Not a sign of Democracy to be found in Denver. We had to fight for a roll call vote, we had to fight to have Hillary’s name placed into nomination.

Then we watched as the Democratic Party trampled all over Democracy by throwing away the votes of 18,000,000 citizens in a roll call vote that made it seem as if Obama was the only candidate running.

State after State of staged on camera performances delegates proudly declaring their love for Obama. We watched as they dragged HRC out on the floor and handed what was rightfully hers to him. The chosen One….Obama.

Nancy Pelosi could not pound her gavel fast enough. When her gavel hit the podium I walked out the door of the Democratic Party. I did not go back under the bus I went a few days later over to John McCain’s campaign when he announced his VP was Sarah Palin.

I am today watching the mess created by Hoping without a reason to Hope and believing Yes we can Change without a damn bit of WTF have you ever changed, except for how the Democratic party votes and conducts elections?

 For those who weren’t following along…..when Obama was selected as the nominee and as the head of the new Democratic Party he made whole the votes of FL and MI……Thanks Barack, but why did you not speak to this sooner?

The final Democratic primary election popular vote with FL and MI included as WHOLE voters was: 

Clinton 17,857,446
Obama 17,584,649

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/D.phtml

 So to those of you, Edward Kimmell, who come on this site and say, you supported Hillary and you can’t understand why those of us who still support Hillary but do not support Obama and the Democratic Party. I have to once again bandage my head because it once again exploded from being reminded of things you have obviously forgotten and then I have to sit down and write about the memories of the day democracy died in the democratic party and then I feel sick…so Ed and those of you who think like Ed…..please knock it off. 

So I will end with… The end does not justify the means. Never has, never will. No one wins, including you Ed. 

BJ knows that
I know that
Everyone who posts here knows that.

Obama speaks for himself – or does he?

Another Rant By: BettyJean Kling

Words matter- let’s hear it from his own mouth. I’ve heard that he needs a teleprompter to sound intelligent and suave– we hear that he hems and haws and says ummm a lot.–I have also heard that his press conferences are comprised of preset questions in order to help him get through without looking like a stumbling buffoon. Well let’s see what happens when the teleprompter goes down and there is no one there to … well let’s just say no one there to bail him out of an embarrASSing situation!

By the way, I would bet a pretty penny that most of my readers could have picked up this part of the speech without a hitch –since we have heard it a thousand times- but this cool cat dude was so frazzled without his teleprompter he couldn’t even pick up a simple concept such as this – instead he wandered around the stage like a fool babbling and searching everywhere for his words –err his teleprompter.

Please note had this happened to Sarah – she would have been labeled an idiot and the news would have played it over and over and over again 24/7. Of course it would not have happened to Hillary – she doesn’t need a teleprompter. Change we can believe in huh- yup this is change alright and I can see it for myself with my our eyes and hear it with my own ears too bad Obamites are too blind and deaf to see or hear what is right in front of them. While jets all over the world Teleprompters and all the media just keeps spinning things Obama’s merry way!

ENJOY! Here is our Illustrious leader in all his glory!

Hillary Supporters Unite

To all my Democratic friends who worked so hard for Hillary and who now may be angry with me for continuing to pursue them with vigor to vote for McCain. Let me say a few words if I may. Please give me the courtesy of reading this through.

 

You own your vote and I respect that and I always will! That is what America is all about! I remember how hard we fought for Hillary and I remember why we did. We were committed to Hillary because we believed she was the best candidate of all those running and as a centrist she would bring America the change we needed and longed for. I do not have to enumerate her qualities or the reasons we fought for Hillary – you know full well we may never see a candidate of her stellar qualities again in our lifetimes.

 

Had Hillary left that party – would we have followed her?  You bet- many of us would not have stayed for the party sake after what they did to her and to us. We would not have stayed just to vote for Obama – I am sure of that! Therefore we do not have an obligation to either the party or the candidate Obama.  We do have an obligation to America and the Constitution of the United States of America for which it stands.

 

Just as we fought to try to win votes for Hillary I am trying to win votes for  McCain/Palin because I believe it will help defeat Obama. Having said that, I firmly believe you have the right to vote your conscience and I hope you honor my right to fight like hell right down to the last second to try to defeat Obama in the only way I know how and that is to gather as many votes against him as I possibly can full well knowing that he is stealing votes.

 

Just as I love and honor you and your right, I beg you to respect and   honor mine and – thank God we are all Americans! God Bless America and I hope we are still Free and Democratic after this election is over!

This is my fear or I would not be doing this — In my heart I fear that Obama and his ilk would have total control over

 

 

  • the Oval Office
  • the House
  • the Senate
  • the Treasury
  • the Commander-in-Chief on the Armed Forces
  • appointment of all the lower court Judges
  • appointment of up to 3 Supreme Court Justices
  • control of the Media.

That is a powerful lot of unfettered control to hand any one MAN. One man that we really do not know. One man that has not had any real experience and has virtually stolen the election and you darn well know he did just that! Don’t you think?

 

Are you really willing to hand the ENTIRE country and every bit of power over to ONE MAN and this party with what you know about them? Is that what our framers intended?  Think about that- where is the balance of powers?

 

Is McCain fit to lead the nation? You know he is fit to lead and he has served his county since he is 17. In addition with all the other powers in Democratic hands, we will have the checks and balances needed to be sure there will not be another 4 years of Bush. There it is – the answer you have needed. We need McCain for checks and balances. We can control him with Dems in control of the House and Senate.

 

McCain in the White house  guarantees us only 4 years and pretty much guarantees us another shot at seeing Hillary run and we know if we have an all woman race that would be something to see. And we know who would win in a two woman race. We also know who would win should the Dems run a man against Sarah so what’s the harm here that we should take a chance with 8 years of the possibly Anti-American Obama? There is only one thing to be afraid here and that is Obama!

 

This one man with very little experience would control our precious United States and his past is virtually unknown except for his shady past associations. These are the only associations we know he has or has had. Let us name a few- Jeremiah Wright, ‘Tony’ Rezko, Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Kwame, Kilpatrick, Meeks, Pfleger, Khalid Al Masour aka Donald Warden, Rashid Khalidi,. Farrakhan, Percy Sutton, ACORN and on and on and on.

 

His college and University records are sealed. The records of his benefactors remain sealed. Whenever details are found out about his lies he immediately scoffs them off as a spin.  Please understand that unless we do everything in our power to elect his opponent – we can not be assured we can stop Obama and it is our duty to stop Obama if we love this county.

 

We may not want to vote Republican, we may not agree with McCain or Palin. But we MUST stop Obama or we are taking a chance on losing America!

 

Please understand that leaving the top blank and voting down ticket could probably result in the Party GIVING those votes to Obama.  

 

Remember what they did in Michigan– they decided that votes that were not even cast for Obama must have been intended for him so they gave – yes they gave him those votes – votes he did not earn – please in the name of Democracy do not leave the top blank if you vote down ticket the Party WILL give them to Obama – I am sure of it!

 

Please reconsider – for the sake of your country. Our troops give their lives and blood every day – what will you give on Nov. 4? Can you hold your nose and shed something to stop Obama from destroying Democracy so that the troops who have given their lives to preserve our freedoms have not, since 1776 died in vain? That is what is at stake! 

 

Thank you for allowing me the honor of reaching out to you as friends who will always be on the same side as Americans who really love our country. No matter what happens in the end, I count you as my friends and fellow patriots.

Failure to intercede – results in success

Another Rant by: BettyJean Kling

Lest you forget – this election is between an elected candidate John McCain of the Republican Party and a selected candidate forced on us by the Democrat Party.

 

The selected candidate does not deserve your vote moreover he deserves your every effort to thwart his success. It is our duty knowing what we know to do everything in our power to stop him! To do anything less is to condone the stealing of an election!

 

In the name of Liberty – Please vote on Nov. 4 and make that vote count toward the prevention of an illegitimate coronation of a man who does not deserve to be president of the USA. Please – do not allow this to happen – it may be an irreversible mistake- we will all live to regret. God forbid he winds up with The Oval Office – The House – The Senate- The Treasury – The Justice Dept. and The Media! Think about it! And they hate Women!

 

Our failure to interrupt Obama’s plans will in fact result in his success. The only thing that ensures him that success is OUR Failure to intercede!

 

 

 From CNN achieves- Clinton Campaign complaints filed against Obama on Caucus Fraud

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/23/nv.state.letter.1.23.08.pdf

RYAN, PHILLIPS, UTRECHT 5. MACKINNON
ATTORNEYS AT LAW’ Nonlawyer Partner
1133 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. Suite 300 Washington, D.C. 20036
(202) 293-1177 Facsimile (202) 293-3411

January 23, 2008

Jill Derby, Chair Nevada State Democratic Party 1210 South Valley View Road Suite 114 Las Vegas, NV 89102

 

Dear Chair Derby:

I write on behalf of Hillary Clinton for President (”the Committee”) in regard to the January 19, 2008 Nevada Democratic Caucus. The Committee is aware of a letter addressed to you today from the Obama for America campaign requesting an inquiry into the conduct of the caucuses. The Committee shares the Obama campaign’s concern that full participation in the democratic process may have been compromised by the substantial number of irregularities occurring at the caucuses, and we fully support a complete inquiry by the Nevada State Democratic Party (the ”Party”) into all caucus improprieties.

 

This letter is not intended as a response to the Obama campaign’s letter. However, in the interest of a complete record, and in contrast to the alleged minor procedural problems noted by the Obama campaign, the Committee wishes to bring to your attention information we have received evidencing a premeditated and predesigned plan by the Obama campaign to engage in systematic corruption of the Party’s caucus procedures. Compounding this blatant distortion of the caucus rules was an egregious effort by the Obama campaign to manipulate the voter registration process in its own favor, thereby disenfranchising countless voters. Finally, the Committee has received a vast number of reliable reports of voter suppression and intimidation by the Obama campaign or its allies.

 

The Committee had 30 phone lines on Saturday to receive calls in its Las Vegas offices. These lines rang continuously from early morning until well after the caucuses concluded with reports from people who were victimized and who observed irregularities. The phone lines were so over-whelmed that many callers resorted to calling individual Committee staff cell phones to report that they could not get through. The Committee also received many similar calls at its national headquarters.

 

The Committee is confident that any investigation into the conduct of the caucuses will be thorough, fair and in the interest of insuring that future Party caucuses will be as open and democratic as possible.

 

Systematic Corruption of the Party’s Caucus Procedures

The Committee received substantially similar reports of improprieties of such a number as to leave no conclusion but that the Obama campaign and its allies and supporters engaged in a planned effort to subvert the Party’s caucus procedures to its advantage. For example:

 

þ Preference cards were premarked for Obama.

þ Clinton supporters were denied preference cards on the basis that none were left, while Obama supporters at the same caucus sites were given preference cards.

þ Caucus chairs obviously supporting Obama:
o Deliberately miscounted votes to favor Senator Obama.
o Deliberately counted unregistered persons as Obama votes.
o Deliberately counted young children as Obama votes.
o Refused to accept preference cards from Clinton supporters who were at the caucus site by noon on the ground that the cards were not filled out fast enough.
o Told Clinton supporters to leave prior to electing delegates.

þ Clinton supporters who arrived late were turned away from the caucus, while late

 

Obama supporters were admitted to the caucus.

 

Manipulation of the Voter Registration Process Numerous reports received by the Committee demonstrate a concerted effort on the part of the Obama campaign and its supporters to prevent eligible voters supporting a candidate other than Senator Obama from caucusing. The Obama supporters complained of were acting in positions of authority at the caucus sites. Some of these reports are as follows:

þ Obama supporters wrongly informed Clinton supporters that they were not allowed to participate in the caucus if their names were not on the voter rolls. However, Obama supporters whose names did not appear on the voter rolls were permitted to register at the caucus site.

þ Obama supporters falsely informed Clinton supporters that no registration forms were available for them to register to vote at the caucus site.

þ Obama supporters wrongly told Clinton supporters who were attempting to caucus at the wrong precinct that they could not caucus at that site, while simultaneously permitting Obama supporters at the wrong precinct to participate.

þ Obama supporters were allowed to move to the front of the registration and sign-in line.

Voter Suppression and Intimidation
The Committee received a substantial number of disturbing reports from voters that they had been subject to harassment, intimidation or efforts to prevent them from voting. Some of the most egregious of these complaints are described below:

þ Voters at at-large caucus sites were informed that those sites were for Obama supporters only.

þ Clinton supporters at at-large caucus sites were told that their managers would be watching them while they caucused.

þ Workers were informed that their supervisors kept lists of Clinton and Obama supporters, and were told that they could not caucus unless their name was on the list of Obama supporters.

þ Many Clinton supporters were threatened with employment termination or other discipline if they caucused for Senator Clinton.

þ Workers were required to sign a pledge card to support Obama if they wanted time off to participate in the caucus.
þ Workers at one casino were offered a lavish lunch and permitted to attend and register to vote only if they agree to support Obama.

 

The complaints summarized above represent only a small sample of the complaints received by the Committee. With respect to each of these complaints and many more, the Committee has the names and phone numbers of those reporting these incidents and the specific precinct numbers where the incidents occurred. Upon request the Committee will share these with the Party with appropriate safeguards to protect these individuals from reprisal. On the whole, these reports show a troubling effort by the Obama campaign and its allies and supporters to advance their own campaign at the expense of the right of all Nevada Democrats to participate in the democratic process in a free, fair and open manner.

 

Senator Clinton and the Committee are wholly committed to ensuring that every eligible voter has his or her vote cast and counted. There is no place in the American electoral process for the types of voter suppression, intimidation and harassment systematically engaged in by the Obama campaign, its allies and supporters.
Sincerely,
/v
Lyn Utrecht Counsel Hillary Clinton for President

 

In the name of Liberty – Please vote on Nov. 4 and make that vote count toward the prevention of an illegitimate coronation of a man who does not deserve to be president of the USA. Please – do not allow this to happen – it may be an irreversible mistake- we will all live to regret. God forbid he winds up with The Oval Office – The House – The Senate- The Treasury – The Justice Dept. and The Media! Think about it! And they hate Women!

 

I repeat

 

Our failure to interrupt Obama’s plans will in fact result in his success. The only thing that ensures him that success is OUR Failure to intercede!

 

Dream Team – They couldn’t loose

 

I had a dream….

guest written by:Angela Gabriel

 

 

Dreams can have so many meanings and lasting effects on not only the dreamer, but also on those that know the dream.

My dream began with Albert Einstein appearing and saying: “Setting an example is not the main means of influencing others; it is the only means.”

This dream took me back to earlier in 2008. The Democratic presidential primary race was entering a critical phase. Wise decisions had to be made because the race had come to a fork in the road. Either choice of direction affected the odds in the gamble of winning the Democratic nomination and, thereafter, winning the November presidential election.

In this dream, a choice was made. Crowds cheered. Millions joined hands—the old, the young, the women and the men, all the different races, and those from every profession–and dedicated their most precious commodities (their time, their money, and their energy) to help the Democrats in their honorable quest for the White House.

Millions more gave from the heart as they knew that help was definitely on the way—help that would make our nation strong, healthy, and safe for our children and all of our futures. Help that would restore respect to our nation in the eyes of the world. Help that would harness the run-away economic horse, tame the wild warhorse, help the sick healthcare horse, and empower the neglected education horse. Help that would set a stellar example for our children and all of our nation about good leadership practices and healthy relationship building.

As with many dreams, I wondered what decision had been made that resulted in such a strong, united force—a force so formidable that it had the power to positively influence what appeared to be almost everyone in the county? What decision had been made at that critical fork?

Suddenly, I was at a political rally of what seemed to be a sea of millions of people. Waves of laughter, togetherness, unity, determination, and confidence filled the air. People were cheering and waving signs. I tried to see a sign, but the crowd jostled me about. Then the crowd was gone. There were signs lying on the ground. I had to see. I wanted to see. What did these signs say? What decision had been made at that crucial fork in the road?

The signs said ‘Clinton and Obama.’ In this dream, these candidates came to that fork and realized that going one direction would cause great harm to the Democratic Party, so much harm that the objective of winning the White House would be jeopardized. So much harm that the Democratic Party may not recover for a very long time. So much harm that Party Boss demands of “Party loyalty’ and ‘Party unity’ were seen for precisely what they were: unethical manipulations that are beneath good leadership and that fly in the face of our Democratic values.

In my dream, these candidates also had the strength of character to understand that by pulling their combined talents together and assisting one another, that history would be made—a history that would include the United States having its first woman president and its first bi-racial vice-president.

A history that would record how the experienced, prepared President helped to groom and prepare the less-experienced Vice-President for his next big political step: the Presidency of the United States of America. Yes, a Presidency that was not stained with the assertions that:

  1. he had been ‘given’ the nomination because he certainly did not win it (Clinton 18 million votes; Obama less than 17.5 million votes); 
  2. had caused the Democratic Party to ignore one of its ethical tenants (‘count every vote!) thereby discounting the will of its members (their votes) because of rule-mongers’ divisive antics; 

  3.  had caused such rancor amongst the Party’s members that many friends and family members were so divided that they could not discuss the up-coming election; 

  4. had caused the winner of the Democratic primary to be chided because she was politically astute enough to keep her name on the Florida and Michigan ballots, hence, should be punished for her political astuteness via taking votes she had fought hard to win and—without her permission–giving these votes to the less politically astute candidate; 

  5. had caused a red-flag statistical anomaly to occur that resulted in an investigation by the Federal Election Commission because almost 50 percent of his contributions were below the level wherein the contributor had to disclose who they were and people demanded to know who was behind the ‘buying’ of the White House; 

  6. had caused the Democrats to lose the November election because millions of them decided that someone had to stand up and set the example and send the message that under-handed, dirty, back-room, insider politics would no longer be tolerated, accepted or rewarded; hence, they voted for the Republican presidential nominee. 

No, in my dream, the Democrats and most the country was united. This uniting crowd of every kind of person from every kind of race and every kind of background did everything they could to clear the path for this historic pair to win the White House and begin a new, brighter, happier, healthier, stronger tomorrow for our children and for all of us. And, the universe breathed a sigh of relief and God smiled.

With the break of dawn, I awoke, once again, with a heavy heart and with a grave concern for our children, our country, and our world.

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Angela Gabriel

 

 

 

 

 

Obama has asserted that in the 20 years he attended Rev. Wright’s church and  Wright was Obama’s spiritual leader, he never knew about the Reverend’s standing in God’s home and damning the Caucian race and the United States.  Question:  If Obama–for 20 years–didn’t know what was going on in his own church, by his own spiritial leader, how is he going to know what is going on in his cabinet, our country and the world should he become president?