By: BettyJean Kling
Family asks, "How do we know that it wasn't her -- those "first few times" -- and he finally had enough?
When the Swallows Come Back to Capistrano this time- mother and children will be safe. His family is asking what the wife did to make him snap and why we always assume it’s the man who does the battering? Hmmmm might have something to do with the fact she was battered bruised and unconcious when the child called the police and the coward ran off leaving her near dead and the children 5 and 7 home alone with a dying mother! But I guess we can call that circumstantial?
Has it ever occurred to anyone that every murderer has a family who loves them and can’t believe this creep did what he did. Do you think abusers were not once nice guys with families and friends who never suspected a thing? In fact that is the first thing neighbors and friends say ” Gee- he is the last guy I would have thought …” But to blame the victim – sad – very very sad and I feel very bad for anyone who does!
Turner was an undergraduate at UCI who was studying criminology and law. Imagine this man as a cop or a detective in charge of helping female victims? It is my opinion that seeing his future destroyed – he probably took his life. Or perhaps his wife had a brother, father or neighbor- a real man who decided one less abuser was a better thing. All I know is that he did not snap- he did it before, spent 4 days in jail and he would have done it again – imagine the little girl calling the cops on her daddy to try and save her mommy’s life?
Where ‘s his family on behalf of these babies? Where were they the first few times the kids had to witness all this from the would-be criminologist turned criminal turned coward?
Turner was arrested by UCI police on Dec. 9 after a fight with his wife at their on-campus apartment and released from jail Dec. 13, authorities said.
He was released from jail after the District Attorney’s Office declined to prosecute, records show.
And imagine I am getting comments from his family on his behalf from a woman who wants
His family wants you to believe this little girl was the batterer of the 6 ft 225 lb bruiser who left her for dead on the floor fighting for air and her life.
me to consider what the wife might have done to cause this “poor guy” to snap before he could visit his family for Christmas.
Snap my ass- he nearly snapped her neck and as I said – it was not the first time – apparently the cops were there 3 weeks ago- God only knows why they let him out! Had they held him – he’s be alive- behind bars but alive! Thankfully the children and their mother were not more seriously injured as a result of lax judicial oversight.
Gregory Scott Turner, a 33-year-old was wanted for allegedly trying to kill his wife, was found dead inside his truck in the San Juan Capistrano area Friday, according to university spokesman Tom Vasich.
Less than a week earlier, police had responded to a similar incident at Turner’s campus home on Verano Place, Vasich said. Turner was arrested Dec. 9 and booked on suspicion of assault.
Police said that on Wednesday, Turner fled from his home when officers arrived.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/12/uci-gregory-scott-turner-dead.html
— Ruben Vives
He strangled and beat his wife Ketra Batiste-Turner, 32 into unconsciousness, their oldest daughter called the police and the 5 and 7 year old were put in protective custody until their mother can be released. Luckily – they will not have to live in fear. In honor of her recovery and the children’s home coming I have included my favorite song about an otherwise lovely place to live- Capistrano.
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You don’t know the whole story and should not say that anyone be better off dead!!!! This was an unfortunate event that should never happened. There are no winners, only losers all around… It seems that you want to exploit the situation for your own good and that is a low blow to their family. Greg Turner was not a monster. Something happened that we know nothing about and snapped. He will be forever missed by all who actually knew him and anyone who wants to judge him without finding out all the details,needs to look into their own lives and will sooner or later be judged too.
Yes, there are winners!! The Asshole is dead!
I am sickened that our court systems are truly retarded, and due to this I find no help in sight of fixing brains that cannot process. I too have had an abuser and to this day I am aware of a single bird just standing. I am waiting for the next strike! Ketra, live long and strong. You have been given a Miracle, take it and run! Do not buy into enabling parents that are glorifing evil. Teach your Children that the rightous actions and thoughts are always exceptable and anything other than that is not. I have no regret, no one else would have eneded your suffering. Glory be to God!
REALLY? IS SHE WAS SUFFERING SO MUCH SHE HAD HER CHANCE TO GET UP AND RUN WHILE HE WAS SITTING IN JAIL FOR 5 DAYS…..THINK ABOUT IT. SHE REALLY DIDNT FEEL AS THREATENED THE WAY PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SAY MY FRIEND WAS SUCH A HORRIBLE PERSON. SHE HAS BEEN WITH HIM FOR YEARS AND FINALLY DECIDED TO MARRY THIS MAN THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE OUT AS A MONSTER. BUT UNTIL YOU PERSONALLY KNOW THEY PEOPLE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU CANNOT JUDGE AND YOUR OPINION DONT MEAN SHIT TO THE PEOPLE THAT KNEW THEM
THE ONLY TIME HE HIT HER WAS UN SELF-DEFENSE . SO YOU MUST NOT HAVE KNOWN HER LIKE YOUR TRYING TO PRETEND.
SO I GUESS YOUR HAPPY THAT HE WAS MURDERED
It has turned from a suicide to a murder investigation, I guess she’s still the victim ??? I am not saying fighting is right, but neither is murder..
THEY WERE BOTH VICTIMS AND SO ARE THE CHILDREN. JUST BECAUSE SHES ALIVE AND HE IS NOT DOESNT MAKE HIM ANY LESS OF A VICTIM
BITCH YOU GOT ALOT OF NERVE SAYIN SUM SHIT LIKE THAT. NOBODY IS GOD AND CAN SAY WHEN SOMEONE SHOULD DIE…….HOW DOES HIM DEAD MAKE ANYONE A WINNER? HIS WIFE LOST, HIS MOTHER LOST, HIS FRIENDS LOST, AND MOST IMPORTANT HIS KIDS LOST YOU HEARTLESS BITCH
He snapped huh? not once but twice in less than a week?
I have lived with snappers like that and my daughter with a half a head is barely living because of a snapper like that.
100 women a day live battered because of a snapper like that, and this is definately not for my own good Stacy all my kids are gone- – two of my daughters battered – both no longer able to enjoy life either both left orphaned sons.
This is for the good of every woman out there that was hunted down by a stalker because the law did not do their job and keep him the week before when he first attcked her.
Now – please tell me what happened the first few times – did he snap then too?
And who may I ask are you in this story- I assume I should be offereing my condolences. Everyone has a family and belongs to someone who loves them .
I am sorry for your loss I really am. If he was my son – I too would be grieving his loss and a post like this would be hard to take – I apologize you have to see it.
HE HAD ALL THE MARKS SHE HAD NONE SO TELL ME WHO DONE WHAT
I am married into his side of the family. I don’t know why this happened. I don’t know what they argued about that made him so mad. Why are we as people in general so quick to assume that only women get battered? How do we know that it wasn’t her those “first few times”, and he finally had enough. No one knows but them and now Greg will never be able to tell his side. He was supposed to go back to his hometown this past weekend to see all the family, but now this will not be. There are 52 weeks in a year and strangely enough this all happened on the eve of the weekend he was supposed to come home to see his mom.This should not have happened. Why it did, we will never know but I have known Greg since he was a teenager. I know you feel moved by this story but to say that he is better off dead makes you no better than the people you despise the most. Another thing that bugs me…….if he took his own life,then why did they not find the weapon that he supposedly used????Another mystery question that we may never know the answer to.
Stacy, this is not the first time he beat her- he was in school studying criminology and law! He was arrested 3 weeks ago for beating her.
Are you trying to tell me that there is any reason on earth for a man to beat a women into unconsciousness? Any reason on earth?
any reason a 7 year old child has to call the cops for help after seeing theis.
Stacy – If you believe for one minute that it is anyone’s fault but his own that he abused his wife- then you are in danger yourself.
NO woman deserves to be touched for any reason on earth let alone strangled nearly to death but a man who fathered her children.
It is so like everyone to blame the victim.
I do hope someday- someone is not blaming you for your murder.
I am going to change some of the language above – for your sake but not because I believe this man had a good reason to beat his wife.
Please stop finding reasons for him- he killed himself because he knew he was guilty and his life was over and he was a coward who had destroyed his future.
He was not concerned about his wifes ‘s life or the children when he did this to them but when he realized he destroyed his own future the coward bowed out!
That is the truth STACY.
Or someone killed him for whatever reason- either way he will not be beating his wife again!
You know you can say what you want to say, but if you did not know him please stop talking shit about my friend I know this man and a lot of this shit is a lie. the truth some women don’t want to see the truth. where’s the wepon that he used and have you try to stab your self it’s kind of hard to do and what made him do that to her and what was see doing and seeing if she is marriage to greg why would you want to make you man snap like that. sure make her look good and like she didn’t do anything and maybe she should be the to be judge!!!!!
THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS ITS OFFICIAL HE WAS MURDERD
Peter, It is really amazing how you have turned on this woman. She is the victim here – you seem to have forgotten this! He did not snap- he is educated in criminology and he did this to her more than once.
Pay attention Peter – for you to say what you said makes you a very dangerous man – I hope for Stacy’s sake – you are not her husband or anyone’s husband.
Ther eis NEVER a good reason to nearly kill your wife in front of your little girls then leave her there to die and the girls to be terrified!
Wha tthe hell is wrong with you people- taking up for a man like that?
Good God – this is what we have come to – blame the victim!
You are pitiful!
i dont even know where to begin; oh you failed to mention he was eleased from jail because he had all the marks and she didnt have nothing. how can you talk about ones family or a deceased person like that; if you dont know how to research then dont be a writer, and if there was so much violence before; why didnt she leave him? exaclty; no answers for that. you people make my cousin & my family sound like monsters when in reality we know him; something happened and none of these damn reporters know.
If she was so bad – why didn’t he leave?
Exactly! No answers for that either!
Astrid – you certainly don’t mind laying blame on the mother of his children do you?
I already can see the character of his friends and family in the language, attitude and defence from his side of the family and friends- WOW! Not one word about the children and how they are in all this!
How they were impacted by seeing this- how they were impacted by having to go to a shelter- how they are impacted at all.
Boy you folks tell it all- This mother and children are better off without all of you and I hope she gets as far away as fast as she can.
I hope she finds our organization – we will help them before one of you wacko’s get to her and finish his job!
I can’t get over you- not one word of concern for the girls!
HE DIDN’T LEAVE BECAUSE OF HIS GIRLS
bitch you pitful and maybe you had it bad in you lifetime but how are to say something bad about my homie that was a good man and your had did go to school for criminology and she was becomeing a lawer and he’s the one that is gone and you can feel sorry for her all you and I think that the victim was him. He lov his kids very much. and trying to I’am a dangerous man you wrong about that. so like i said please stop talking shit about me friend did you even know greg turner.
FREEMENOW: I TOTALLY GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THRU ALL OF THIS. BUT YOU ARE NOT A PERSONAL FRIEND OF EITHER VICTIM. BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH THE VICTIMS. YEA SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED IN THE MANNER SHE WAS….BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY AND JUST LIKE STACY POSTED BEFORE WE WILL NEVER KNOW GREGS SIDE OF THE STORY…….NEVER. EVER……WE WILL ONLY KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
PETER…U KNOW JUST LIKE I KNOW THERE ARE MORE DETAILS TO THIS STORY THEN WE KNOW AND WITH PEOPLE LIKE THIS LADY HERE BASHING PEOPLE BEFORE SHE KNOWS DETAILS JUST AINT RIGHT.
FREEMENOW……I KNOW PETER AND I KNEW GREG AND KETRA. YOU BEGIN BASHING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND THATS WRONG. NOT EVERY CASE IS THE SAME AND JUST BECAUSE HE PUT HIS HANDS ON HIS WIFE…SOME WOMEN PUT THEIR HANDS ON THEIR HUSBANDS AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENS. SO JUST BECAUSE HE PUT HIS HANDS ON HER DOESNT MAKE HIM A BAD PERSON. YA HE WAS IN CRIMINOLOGY BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. HE WAS A GREAT MAN AND A GREAT FATHER AND PEOPLE CAN BASH HIM ALL THEY WANT BECAUSE HE HAS MADE HIS JUDGEMENT DAY AND YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE YOURS.I AM SADDEND TO HEAR THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT THIS MAN AFTER HE IS GONE BUT YET NOBODY WOULD TALK LIKE THIS TO HIS FACE. PEOPLE ARE CHILDISH AND TAKING A LOSS TO ONES FAMILY AND RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS ABOUT THINGS THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. BECAUSE WHEN IT ALL COMES DOWN TO IT. HIS KIDS ARE GOING TO GET OLD ENUFF OT DO RESEARCH ON THEIR DADDY AND WHEN THEY SEE THIS STUFF YOU GUYS ARE JUST GOING TO CRUSH EVERY GOOD MEMORY THAT THEY EVER HAD WITH THEIR DAD. THERE IS WAY MORE TO THIS STORY THEN PEOPLE WANNA SEE, AND UNLESS IT AFFECTS YOU DIRECTLY YOU SHOULD JUST SHUT YOUR MOUTHS…….REST IN PARADISE GREG!! WE LOVE YOU FOR THE RIGHT AND WRONG THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH YOUR LIFE BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART AND I WILL KEEP DEFENDING YOU UNTIL THE DAY I DIE!
Stacy,
Any man that beats his wife and in front of his daughters is a CAD and an ass- plain and simple and if you don’t know that and if you accept any less – than you are the reason these things happen!
As far as me talking about it and his kids researching– you folks are really out there— He did this in front of his daughters– WAKE the hell up!
He traumatised his little girls. That is the wonderful father he was. He beat – strangled and left for dead their mother and then ran off and left those two babies alone with a dying mother and left the 7 year old to call the police on their father.
Wake up woman. And Homie must be your man huh?
I would watch out for that wonderful catch !
I just love it when people speak like they know everything 100% and everything can be characterized in black and white, zero and one. So people are either complete good or completely evil. They are either wholly the victim or wholly the victimizer.
Seriously, what world do you live in?
NO BITCH…SEE THATS WHERE YOU GOT ME WAY FUKED UP….PETER IS MY HOMIE NOT MY MAN….MY HUSBAND WOULD BEAT YOUR FAT ASS ALL UP AND DOWN THE BLOCK BITCH. ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT DESERVE TO GET OYUR ASS BEAT BY A MAN…..U ARE STEADY TALKIN ON A SITUATION YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AND YOU SHOULD SHUT YOUR FAT ASS UP WHILE YOU ARE AHEAD BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT THIS WHOLE SITUATION…WERE YOU THERE? DO YOU KNOW THEM? YOU ARE SPEAKING AS IF YOU KNEW THEM….BUT YOU DONT…SO SHUT THE FUK UP AND KEEP IT MOVIN TO THE NEXT BATTERED WOMAN……UNTIL YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THIS TOPIC AND THESE PEOPLE MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO YOUR OWN LIFE AND SEE WHY YOU GOT YOUR ASS BEAT. BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHEN TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LEAVE SHIT ALONE…….YOU GOT SOMETHIN TO SAY ALL DAY…WHY DONT YOU GET OFF YOUR FAT ASS AND AWAY FROM YOUR COMPUTER FOR A MINUTE AND DO SOME EXERCISES OR JOIN JENNY CRAIGS…….YOU ARE TURNING THIS TRADGEDY INTO A BASHING THAT YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS IN……MIND YOUR OWN LIFE AND LEAVE OURS ALONE……
What a lovely person you are inside. Spreading the same kinda love back at ya!
Since you don’t really know anything about the person you are posting to either.
pffft.
I DONT NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PERSON THAT IS POSTING THIS BECAUSE THIS PERSON DOES NOT KNOW THE PEOPLE SHE IS TALKING ABOUT
Lady your the one that need’s to wake up and get your heard out of the tabloid
FOR REAL YOU NEED TO STOP WORRYIN ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN SOMEONE ELSES LIFE AND START WORRYIN ABOUT YOUR OWN…..ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DONT KNOW THEM OR WHAT THEY ARE GOING THRU…..KEEP YOUR MOUTH LIKE YOUR LEGS SHOULD BE….CLOSED!
FREEMENOW: WHERE ARE YOU GETTING ALL YOUR INFO BECAUSE WE CAN PROSICUTE FOR SLANDERING AND FALSE INFORMATION……
Keep writing folks you are making my case….I don’t have to be there to witness what kind of folks you all are – you are demonstrating yourselves and your homie Greg to the world with your uncontrolled outbursts- Violence and temper tantrums. Anyone reading this can eaily deduct what a class act she married into!
YOU NEED TO CHECK AND SEE WHY THEY LEFT TEXAS TO START WITH AND IT WASN’T BECAUSE OF HIM.
Penny please contact me asap. I need to ask a very important question before ketra destroys my family. Taralanaekline@gmail.com
I’d have to agree with you, BJ. I deal with this type of insanity every day. Hang in there, lady. They’re just making your points for you.
TO STACY FROM THE OTHER STACY…….WE CAN PROSECUTE THIS LADY FOR SLANDER AND WE CAN GET HER IN BIG TROUBLE FOR RUNNIN HER MOUTH ON THINGS SHE HAS NO BUSINESS TALKING ABOUT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION…..
Stacy,
Obviously you have never heard of free speech, also you can’t file slander charges for speaking the truth.
1. Was he not under investigation and had a warrant out on him for attempted murder? Yes.
2. Did the charges include assaulting his wife? Yes.
3. Does it matter a hill of beans what his motive was when it comes to his actions? NO
4. Where the children present and called the police when his strangled his wife? Yes.
5. Do they have witnesses that acted of their own accord in reporting the crime? Yes.
Other than those facts, what do you have.
You are the one’s slandering.
A) You do not know and have never been on this blog before. Therefore you are the ones slandering.
B) You are the one’s threatening
C) You are the one’s committing assault.
Please don’t think about the fact that the internet is about to get a bunch of new rules and regs on Bullying. I’m sure a good attorney will find a way to apply them to you.
IVE ALREADY GOT A LAWYER LOOKING INTO THIS………
YOU GUYS ARE SLANDERING A MURDERED MAN……
BJ I could cry as I read through this nonsense. In fact, I do have tears in my eyes.
How could these responders treat you so cruelly?
I know, from reading this site, what you went through personally and I am horrified at the comments addressed to you here.
Please ignore them. Do not allow their angry rants upset you. Apparently, that’s what they want.
Don’t even answer them anymore. They are not worth your time!
I am very shocked and saddened by the way people here are so easily finding excuses for terrible actions.
I can’t believe that there are so many people out there that love to preach about battering and abuse who have never been subjected to it. If they had they would not be making excuses for someone who failed their loved one’s.
Let’s leave the previous abuse out, for arguments sake. What kind of person cares so little for his children that he would take and beat his wife into unconciousness in front of his child? Have you all ever seen some one beaten to unconsiousness? Have you ever seen that kind of violence in real life? Have you ever seen or felt the terror? Did you ever try screaming at some one to stop and they won’t? Have you ever seen that blank rage in the person you loves face? Have you ever felt the complete helplessness of you world turning upside down, that these children felt?
Now you feel loss that you lost someone you thought you knew so well. I am sorry for your loss.
Now get out of your safe bubble and try to help these kids deal with their new reality, that their daddy nearly beat their mommy in front of their eyes, that their daddy cared so little for them that he would shot himself and that they will never feel safe, secure or trust anyone again because one of the people that they trusted completely, didn’t think one iota about them, because if he had he wouldn’t have done any of the above.
There is no excuse in this world that you can come up with that makes any of the above okay or acceptable.
Keep deluding yourself about who you thought this man was, he showed his true face. Actions speak louder than words and he had the choice and abilities not to take any of these actions.
Goofs- I am not sure how or if he killed himself- last I heard they did not have a weapon. If he did then the coward couldn’t face destroying his own life – if someone did him in as his “homies” suggest then someone thought enough of his children to bring justice to the home that the cops didn’t do.
The blue wall – he was studying criminology – they take care of theri own – they let him out before so maybe someone else decided on real justice.
we will have to wait and see if he did it himself or someone did his wife and kids a favor! Its for sure the wife didn’t do it although- homies would love to pin that on her too or maybe they will blame the babies next!
well maybe it was his wife or possibly a lover of his wifes… maybe he found out about an affair. maybe she got caught. maybe thats why he flipped. maybe just maybe…..
Dora,
Not to worry- I culled from them exactly what I wanted and that was finding out what kind of people his side were! Obviously, low life, woman abusers and women who have no self-esteem. They can’t write or spell, have no manners- cannot articulate without vitriol and attack instead of reason.
I’m done- and the world now knows his side of the story.
To all the hateful posters.
Yep, now we see what kind of man he was, by the friends he kept.
You are no better because the first thing you resort to is threating.
Birds of a feather flock together.
yeah so you and your friend’s need to shut the fuck up and keep my friend’s name out of your guy’s mouth you fake ass fool’s and who said he was shoot and where did you get your info at.
Ohhh, my mistake. Yes, let’s argue about how he killed himself as opposed to the fact that he tried to kill his wife in front of his children and ruined their live. That’s soooooo much more important.
Peter,
Watch this… Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife. Gregory Scott Turner tried to kill his wife.
get your facts strait and go suck a peter PETER
R.I.P GREGORY SCOTT TURNER WE LOVE YOU AND DON’T CARE WHAT OTHER WANT TO TRY AND SAY ABOUT YOU AND DON’T EVEN KNOW YOU AT ALL AND TO SEE THERE TWO SIDE OF THE STORY AND WE ONLY SEE ONE SIDE.
Peter- the man is resting in peace- its his family that is going through hell. That is what he left. He left all that for them to clean up after him.
His wife – who you are bashing is not resting in peace- and his daughters are living with the horror he brought to theri innocent lives – they are not in any peace. they have to go to school and face theri friends and neighbors!
But who are you concerned about? Poor poor homie- what a guy resting in peace !
FREEMENOW YOU NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT SHIT YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT . SHE WAS BECOME A LAWER DO YOU EVEN KNOW IF THAT REALLY HAPPEN DO YOU AND DID YOU KNOW THE MAN?
You only know a man by his actions. Your homie was a murderous fool and met his just end.
And his “homies” are indeed birds of a feather.
“MY HUSBAND WOULD BEAT YOUR FAT ASS ALL UP AND DOWN THE BLOCK BITCH. ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT DESERVE TO GET OYUR ASS BEAT BY A MAN” screams one of his homies. It’s sad that this kind of self-loathing woman-hating victims and proponents of violence even exist. But apparently, that is the mindset of the entire circle of people who love this wife-bashing loser who traumatized his own daughters in his selfish, out of control rage.
TALK ALL THAT SHIT BEHIND A COMPUTER BUT I BET IF I WAS IN YOUR FACE YOU WOULDNT SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT…..
peter,
You forgot to say that you love his children and that you will help them throught the rest of their lives deal with what daddy just did to them. There are 3 sides to the story not two.
IT DOESNT MATTER IF I HAVE EVER POSTED ON THIS BLOGG BEFORE. I HAVE NEVER HAD A REASON UNTIL NOW…
AM I CONDONING MY FRIENDS ACTIONS? NO
DO I THINK IT WAS RIGHT THAT HIS WIFE
SUFFER THE WAY SHE DID? NO
DO I THINK ITS RIGHT THAT HIS KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITHOUT THEIR DADDY FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES? NO DEF NOT.
DO I THINK IT IS FAIR FOR PEOPLE WHO NEVER KNEW THESE PEOPLE TO TALK ON THEM LIKE THEY WERE A PAIR OF DOGS? NO
SHOULD PEOPLE SHUT UP AND LET HIM REST IN PEACE? YES
IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO CHANGE WHAT HAS HAPPEND? NO
WE CANNOT CHANGE THINGS AND WE CANNOT JUDGE PEOPLE WHO WE DO NOT KNOW IN SITUATIONS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. YOU GUYS CAN TALK ALL YOU WANT BECAUSE IT DONT MEAN NOTHING TO US THAT REALLY KNOW ABOUT THE SITUATION.
ASK YOURSELVES THIS……
DID THIS MAN REALLY DESERVE TO DIE? DID HE REALLY DESERVE TO HAVE HIS LIFE TAKEN FROM HIM?
NO
THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW RIGHT NOW FOR KILLING PEOPLE AND TRYING TO KILL PEOPLE
YOU ARE NOBODYS MAKER TO SAY THEY DESERVE TO BE DEAD…YOU ARE NOBODY TO SAY THAT ON ANYONE…..MAYBE YOU DESERVE TO BE DEAD FOR SPEAKING ON SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
WHY CANT PEOPLE JUST LET THE POLICE AND FAMILY DO THEIR JOB. WHY CANT PEOPLE JUST KEEP THEIR OWN OPINIONS TO THEMSELVES?
HASNT YOUR MAMA EVER TOLD YOU IF YOU GOT NOTHIN NICE TO SAY THEN DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL??
BLOGGING NEGATIVITY ON SOMEONE THAT HAS PASSED AWAY IS LOW….
YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME TO SAY I AM LOW CLASS…BITCH DO YOUR RESEARCH. I DONT HAVE TO MAKE MY LIVING BY BASHING DEAD PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILY.
GOOFSMOM: WHAT POINT DID YOU PROVE BY YOU POSTING THAT GREGORY SCOTT TURNER TRIED TO KILL HIS WIFE…….?
JUST THE FACT THAT THE KEY WORD IS TRIED…….HE DID NOT KILL HER AND SHE IS ALIVE AND BREATHING….SO DOES HE REALLY DESERVE TO DIE?
NO HE DONT BITCH….DONT EVEN TRY TO SAY HE DID……..
AND YOU WANNA POST THAT IM THREATENING PEOPLE…..WHERE? IM NOT THREATENING NOBODY I AM MERELY STATING….REMEBER FREEDOM OF SPEACH!!!!!
I BET YOU DONT HAVE ANY FRIENDS THATS WHY YOU ARE ON HERE BASHING PEOPLE….
HAVENT YOU EVER HEARD OF INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BY A COURT OF LAW???
OBVIOUSLY THE COURT OF LAW DIDNT FIND HIM GUILTY………
GET YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU START SPEAKIN ON THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
Well the court of law can’t find him guilty for the crime assault now can they. He effectively side stepped that.
Ohhh, let’s do talk about how innocent his was. That is so much more important than the facts.
Did his 7 year old child have to call the police because of the fact that beloved and trusted daddy had strangled mommy? Yes.
Where is the innocence there?
Oh and you are very correct in saying that we can’t change the facts. Those are the facts.
You just go ahead and keep your head in the sand.
your caps are on lock
I KNOW MY CAPS ARE ON LOCK….DID I REALLY NEED YOU TO INFORM ME….DO YOU THINK I CANT SEE? I WANT MY CAPS TO BE ON LOCK. I AM PISSED OF AT THESE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING MORE THEN THEY READ TRYING TO JUSTIFY SOMEONE ELSES LIFE……
TO GOOFSMOM DON’T WORRY ABOUT WHAT i SAID AND CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING DID YOU KNOW THE MAN? REALLY DID YOU KNOW HIM!!!!!!!!!!
peter,
Nice try. Did he strangle his wife in front of his children?
GOOFSMOM: YOU TALK LIKE YOU REALLY KNEW THEM…..
DID YOU?
IF NOT THEN SHUT THE FUK UP AND LET IT GO….YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER BY BASHING SOMEONE ELSE….
FACT IS…..ITS DONE……YOU CANT CHANGE IT SO LET HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS MOURN THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE AND DONT WORRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPEND IN THEIR LIVES…..
You too, you lovely person.
Let’s stay out of everyone’s lives. Abuse never happens, the victims always deserve it.
PS I don’t have to shut up.
I DON’T KNOW , DID YOU SEE HIM STRANGLE HISWIFE IN FRONT OF HIS KID’S WELL DID YOU. WHERE YOU THERE AND DID YOU EVEN KNOW GREG ?
Okay let’s see if I understand this. If I didn’t see him strangle his wife in front of the kids but the kids did and they called the police, then I can’t comment because why?
DID YOU EVER STOP TO THINK THAT THEY CAME IN AND FOUND HER AND WAS NOT THERE AT THE TIME?
stacy,
That is the best you have? Did he strangle his wife in front of his children and have an arrest warrant out on him?
Maybe the police shouldn’t arrest anyone because they don’t “know them” .
By your logic, no one is ever guilty because those that put the laws into place and enforce them “don’t know them”
I know, it is so much easier to forgive the abuser than the victim. So you keep right on justifying that she “drove” him to strangling her.
Did the kids drive him to it too? Did they deserve to see it?
peter,
Oh please, you really are sad. I am sorry you lost a good friend.
Did the kids call the police? yes or no?
Oh please you don’t even know my friend and to your ? well did the kid’s really call the police? yes or no?
Yes, the 7 year old daughter called the police.
ITS FUNNY HOW PEOPLE ARE QUICK TO JUDGE AND MAKE THEIR OWN ACCUSATIONS AND INNUENDOS……..LETS STICK TO THE FACTS…..
WERE ANY OF US THERE WHEN THIS HAPPENED??? NO……
SO LET THIS MAN REST IN THE PEACE HE DESERVES AND LEAVE IT ALONE ALREADY BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE JUST SHOWING HOW LIL COMPASSION YOU HAVE FOR ANYONE. REGARDLESS HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT MY DEAR FRIEND GREG, AND HIS WIFE KETRA…..BECAUSE OBVIOSLY SHE MARRIED HIM SO HE MUST NOT HAVE BEEN THAT BAD OF A PERSON
THEY ARE STILL MOURNING HIS LOSS AND HIS FAMILY IS STILL MOURNIG HIS LOSS. I HOPE HIS MOM DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THIS BECAUSE HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS YOUR FAMILY…….???????
HMMM, CAN ANY OF YOU ANSWER THAT FOR ME……
HOW WOULDYOU REALLY FEEL IF IT WAS YOUR FRIEND OR FAMILY????
WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT YOUR FAMILY OR FRIENDS REGARDLESS OF THE ACTIONS THEY HAVE DONE. YOU LOVE FAMILY REGARDLESS….
SO JUST STOP THE COMMENTS AND BASHING PLEASE IT HAS ALL GONE A LIL TOO FAR AND IT SHOULD BE DROPPED ALREADY…..
KETRA IS ABLE TO MOVE ON WITH HER LIFE AND HOPEFULLY HER BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO GET PASSED IT TOO…
THIS IS A LONG AND TRAGIC ROAD FOR ALL OF US WHO HAVE LEARNED OF THIS NEWS AND WE REALLY DONT DESERVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THIS OTHER THEN WHAT THEY READ….
HAVENT YOU HEARD OF BELIEVE ONLY HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE………?
Stacy,
You don’t have to be here and read this. We didn’t make you come over.
That is your choice.
Stacy,
How do you know it hasn’t already been our family and lives? Hmmm…
Maybe you should check into things first before you assume that all of us here have no point of reference.
NOBODY IS SAYING THAT YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THINGS YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED IN YOUR FAMILY OR FRIENDS….SEE YOU NEED TO GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT AND READ RIGHT…..
NOBODY SAID YOU HAVE NO POINT OF REFERNCE BUT NOT ALL CASES ARE THE SAME…IN FACT EVERY ONE IS DIFFERENT UNLESS ITS A MASS MURDERER OR A COPYCAT….HELLO!
BUT IN SAYING THAT EVERY CASE IS DIFFERENT AND YOU CANNOT JUDGE THE NEXT CASE ON THE LAST CASE….
The kids were there and they saw it… they called the police… they told the police that daddy was strangling mommy.
Those are the facts… unless of course, you are saying the kids are lying?
Yeah I read the fact’s.
SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THE KIDS TOLD POLICE THAT THEY SAW DADDY STRANGGLING MOMMY…..
THEM KIDS DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT STRANGLE MEANS….
SPEAK ON SOMETHING YOU KNOW…
WHERE YOU THERE WHEN THE KIDS WERE TALKING TO POLICE????? HMMMMMM……
WHERE YOU THERE WHEN THE POLICE SHOWED UP?? NO…OBVIOUSLY NOT BECAUSE IF YOU WERE THERE HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STRANGLE HER OR HIT HER IN FRONT OF THEIR KIDS.
SO YOU CANT SPEAK ON SHIT YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
THIS ISNT YOUR CASE OR ANYONE THAT YOU KNOW SO JUST KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF…..
WHY CANT YOU JUST LEAVE IT ALONE?
WHY DO YOU NEED TO PUT YOU UNWELCOMED 2 CENTS INTO SHIT????
HMMMMM????
CAN U ANSWER ALL THAT FOR ME…?
One other note.
The kids will never get past it. It is not something they can just forget.
It’s obvious that you have never been subjected to what happened to even make that statement.
IT’S OBVIOUS THAT YOU DON’T KNOW ME AND DON’T KNOW MY FRIEND .
GOOFSMOM: JUST SHOWS HOW LOW YOU REALLY ARE…..MAYBE YOU NEED TO REREAD THINGS AND THEN SPEAK ON THEM….
NOBODY SAID NOT TO PROSECUTE ANYONE BECAUSE THEY DO NO KNOW THEM. GET THAT RIGHT OFF TOPS……
NOBODY IS SAYING TO FORGIVE ANYONE. UNTIL YOU KNOW THE FACTS THAT HAPPENED IN THAT HOUSE TO CAUSE THE ACTIONS THERE THEN YOU CANNOT SPEAK ON ANYTHING.
YOU ARE SHOWING WHAT KIND OF HEARTLESS PERSON YOU ARE TO JUST PICK CERTAIN THINGS OUT OF WHAT I AM SAYING…..BUT WHATEVER BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO YOUR MAKER FOR YOUR WRONG DOINGS ONE DAY AND GOD WILL HAVE THE FINAL JUDGEMENT……
First, you don’t know me so please don’t pretend that you have a point of reference to me.
Second, we know what the kids did.
Third, personal attacks don’t phase me.
Fourth, I’m on very good terms with my maker and feel no fear meeting him.
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE KIDS SAID….THATS WHY THEY ARE IN PROTECTIVE CUSTODY…….SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU CANNOT PUT SHIT IN THEIR HEADS AND SCREW THEM UP EVEN MORE
DUMBASS BITCH
Ummm, they were in protective custody because their mom was in the hospital recovering from being strangled.
AND YET WHY HASNT SHE GOT THEM OUT YET???? WHY DID SHE NEED TO GO TO COURT TO GET THEM???? HMMMMMM………GET YOUR FACTS BITCH
HMMMMMMM……OH NOTHING TO EXPLAIN THAT THO……..GO DO YOUR RESEARCH BITCH
Where did you read that she had to go to court to get them? please post link.
Last I saw was that they were to be reunited when she had recovered from her injuries.
SEE YOU WANNA READ ARTICLES THAT HAVE LINKS IN IT BUT YOU CANT RESEARCH YOUR LINKS……HMMMM WHAT KIND OF BLOGGER ARE YOU? ONE VERY MISINFORMED ONE THATS WHAT KIND………DO YOUR RESEARCH BITCH
WHY DONT YOU DO MORE RESEARCH BEFORE YOU START SPEAKING ON SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE JUST SEEN AND HEARD IN THE NEWS AND ON THE INTERNET……GET A LIFE AND GET OFF THE COMPUTER……..
WHY DONT YOU GET A REAL JOB INSTEAD OF GETTING PAID TO BASH DEAD PEOPLE…
I HOPE GREGS SOUL COMES TO HAUNT YOU IN YOUR SLEEP FOR NOT LETTING HIS SOUL REST…..
Nope, not afraid of ghosts either.
NOBODY SAID TO BE AFFRAID OF GHOSTS……I JUST HOPE HE HAUNTS YOUR LIFE FOR NOT LETTING HIM REST. I HOPE HE HAUNTS ALL YOU LOW CLASS SHIT TALKIN DEAD MAN BASHING STUPID ASS BITCHES…..
Oh for God’s Sake – now we got this Peter wondering if the kids even called the cops— gimmee a break – the more they talk – the more we understand the kind of people these are.
This peter fits his name – next he will be blaming it on the kids altogether.
The guy was probably on drugs – who knows? These characters sound like they are in another world already- beyond real- they are not capable of reality Goofs- these women are in danger themselves and this peter … well I feel sorry for which ever one is hooked up with him.
I hope the woman and kids get aways from them all- they say she is studying law- she also needs a new state and identity- those kids need a new start. The damned picture looks like a mug shot for heaven sakes.
Who are they going to blame the mug shot on – me- you – the kids?
Gee- blame everyone but the wouold be killer who wound up killing himself- or so we think.
HERE GOES THE FAT BITCH RUNNIN HER MOUTH AGAIN…RAN OUTTA TWINKIES……
YOU DONT KNOW ME OR PETER OR GREG OR KETRA OR THE KIDS FOR THAT MATTER SO WHY DONT YU GO GET ANOTHER BOX OF TWINKIES AND GO SIT BACK ON THE COUCH
STUPID ASS BITCH THATS THE PICTURE THEY TOOK WHEN HE WENT INTO JAIL AND HE HAD MARKS ALL OVER HIM FROM HER….HMMM WHERES ALL THAT INFO AT THO???? HMMM…..WHAT ABOUT THAT…WHO WAS THE VICTIM THEN? BUT ANYWAYS YOU GUYS CAN KEEP THIS GOING ALL YOU WANT I WILL DEFEND MY FRIENDS UNTIL THE DAY I DIE…..I AMY NOT AGREE WITH HOW THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE THEIR LIVES BUT ITS OBVIOUSE HE WASNT SUCH A THREAT TO HIS WIFE FOR HIM TO BE RELEASED FROM JAIL BECAUSE SHE DIDNT WANT TO PRESS ANY CHARGES……
BUT ITS IRRELAVENT NOW…..ALL OF THIS IS IRRELEVANT
BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS NOW IS THAT MY FRIEND IS DEAD, HIS KIDS ARE GOING TO BE TRAUMATIZED FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES, AND ALL YOU PEOPLE CAN DO IS TALK SHIT……..
HMMMM….GOT REAL QUIET ON THAT SIDE OF THE COMPUTER…….GOOFSMOM MUSTA MET UP WITH FREEMENOW AND THEY MUSTA WENT OUT FOR TWINKIES!
WOW FREEMENOW GOT REAL QUIET…….MUST BE FEEDING HER FACE……
I took a shower – I am on my way to see my daughter who now resides in a nursing home because a wonderful homie like yours blew half her head off and now she lies there and I go every night to see her. She can’t see, hear, speak, sit, stand, or recognize her tow sons, she will live like this for the next 40 years and her nice guy – my son-in -law will walk in 15 years . A lot of folks liked him too.
You know what she did to deserve that?
I will tell you.
she was taking care of her dying sister- Her dying sister who weighed 80 lbs when her husband george decided he needed her pain meds more than Denise did . So denise had to hide them from him.
George 250 lbs bashed her bald dying 80 lb framed head in to get those pills, they decided to let him out without bail.
there was not protection for Denise except her family members talking turns to care for her – she was dying – It was 2 years ago this month – Just before Christmas too.
It was Louisa’s turn when George came back with a shotgun to get more pills from his wife.
George blew her brains out!
Merry Christmas folks-
I FEEL FOR YOUR SITUATION. I CANNOT SAY I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER BEEN THRU ANYTHING AS TRAGIC AS THAT WOULD BE. I COULD NOT IMAGINE ANYTHING LIKE THAT EVER HAPPENING TO MY KIDS AND I WILL SEND MY CONDOLENCES AND MY RESPECTS TO THAT. I AM SORRY YOU HAVE TO GO THRU THAT. READING THAT MAKES ME CRY…I FEEL FOR YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER. I AM JUST UPSET AT HEARING PEOPLE BASH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO WE WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO. AND IF IT WAS SUICIDE THEN OK BUT THERE ARE ALOT OF MISSING PIECES TO THE PUZZLE AND UNTIL ALL THE FACTS ARE KNOWN THEN NOBODY REALLY HAS THE RIGHT TO BASH.
That is what I meant when I said you do not know us or our lives.
So maybe the twinkie eating bitch has a different life and perspective than you do.
As I have said before, I am sorry for all of you. Yes it is very upsetting to lose a loved one.
It is hard to deal with a sudden death.
NOBODY SAID I KNEW YOU OR YOUR LIVES. NOBODY SAID YOUR SITUATIONS AND OUR SITUATIONS WERE THE SAME. BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT. THEY WERE THE SAME IN THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A DOMESTIC INCIDENT BUT NOT THE SAME SO THEREFOR SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED THE SAME
Maybe Goofs and FMN realized what a waste of time it is responding your your ridiculous comments and decided to attend to more important matters.
Hi Dora,
FMN is on her way to see her daughter. I’m hanging in.
I do feel badly for them, it is hard to lose someone suddenly and in this way.
It will take some time for them because the pain is so raw. That’s why I’ve been keeping it clean and not throwing names and curses around.
Stacy,
Nope not quiet just waiting for something intellegent to respond to
INTELLEGENT…..NOTHING FROM YOUR MOUTH IS INTELLEGENT SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST SHUT THE FUK UP AND GO BOTHER SOMEONE ELSES LIVES…..
stacy,
Again you don’t know me and I didn’t come to you to bother you.
BUT YOU ARE STEADY BASHING AND TALKIN ALOT OF SHIT….
I see and you are not?
YUP IM GUNNA CONTINUE TO TALK SHIT TO UNTIL PEOPLE GET THEIR FACTS RIGHT WHEN THEY WANNA TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT
Please, you have admitted you don’t know the facts either. So why are you bashing?
Oh, and I don’t consider calling people you do not know names an intellegent conversation.
GO READ A BOOK BITCH……GET A LIFE
You first.
goofsmom you just need to live us alone and freeme have a coke with that pie your eating you don’t know shit bitch and you can’t judge me only god can.
I’m leaving you alone. You came here remember? I don’t drink coke and I’m not judging you.
Am I calling you names? Nope. Am I judging you? nope.
I didn’t say you
Okay.
Seems I’ve walked into an explosion of rage. Rage is an emotional reaction to fear.
This is domestic violence.
Families torn apart by violence. Defending the indefensible, blaming blaming blaming.
Every family member and friend needs to seek counseling to deal with the emotional devastation of violence of loss of grief…everyone of you is now a victim whether you recognize that fact you are.
Do I know any of you? NO…but everyday I am called to bear witness to the violence in what is called a “happy home” with a guy who “wouldn’t hurt a fly” ” he snapped” “its her fault”
The bottom line is NO human being should ever lay hands on another human being…the consequences of that choice forever changes everyone involved.
There are children who witness this and should be first concern. Defending the honor of their father with more rage and violence, blaming their mother is not a solution it is a problem in itself.
Attacking the women here who speak to the violence and try to prevent what happen here is not a solution nor therapy.
We need to as a society address the violence and ensure that the first time it occurs…anger courses are the law because it will certainly play out and end the way this has…TRAGIC for everyone involved
Barbara,
So true. There are so many what if’s and maybe if’s and it is sad.
The biggest is if counseling had been offered or maybe he had someone close he could discuss this with it may never had gone this far in the first place.
It happens in so many homes countless times a day, every day, 365 days a year and it is tragic.
So many lives lost needlessly.
Why attack the messenger?
The women you’re attacking are victims of domestic violence who speak to what society ignores, defends and blames
Everyone but the monsters themselves.
Get out your phonebook and call your local domestic violence hotline number now.
This is not the place to vent there are too many raw emotions.
You’re friend is at Peace…it’s you who needs to find the same.
Blessings on your journey to find Peace.
Yup – he is in peace look what he left everyone else.
unfreakingbelievable.
then these people are attacking the victim – how is this going to affect her and the children- she is not asafe there Barbara. She needs help pronto!
i never said anything about ketra…i know she did for her kids i know she wanted the best for her kids. i never doubt her mothering one bit. i would trust her with my children. but what we are saying is that she has faults too. everyone had faults and nobody can point fingers until the truth is told. and regardless of what this outcome is it has affected so many people in so many ways that its going to take a long time to process it all and heal from it. yes people honor greg..for the man they know him to be. we do not see this “monster” that you people see, and when the truth comes out people will have their own opinions. but show some respect for people that are grieving. for the loss of a friend, for the children that we will forever worry about, and even for ketra for having to experience a tradgedy like that. its unexplainable and if the tables were turned in your court you handle things the best you know how, and when someone crosses the line and offends you and how you feel about a situation is wrong. everyone is entitled to their own opinion but really does it have to be so one sides? i get the fact that you speak out against abusers for the abused and deceased but sometimes it just aint the right time to start the bashing……i mean the man is not even layed to rest and his family and friends as well as ketras family and friends that have to learn how to cope with something like this.
I must run – I am late to see my baby girl- George tried to off himself several times – we all stopped him! Oh how I wish we had not- the trade-off —- that is why this one has gotten to me!
Everytime I look at my beautiful baby with a half of her head missing and realize he lives – walks and breaths and will be free in 15 years – — God help me – I am so sorry we saved his sorry ass. The same sorry ass his family loves and his homies love!!
in your heart you knew he didnt deserve to die…he needs to live with this for the rest of his life and suffer with knowing what he has done. and if i was you i would make sure he was reminded everyday of his life what he done to you and your family. but because he tried to take a life does not mean he should pay with his own life. Life does not go like that. there are murders everyday that go unsolved and unheard of. you never know who is at their snapping point but obviously there was a flag that went up on the 9th that could have been addressed with some counseling and dv classes, seperations, different routes. but we cant play the could of would of blues becuase whats done is done and now we just have to move forward with our lives the best we can and continue to pray that justice will be served
MY Friend BJ
As always my prayers are with you give Louisa a kiss and a hug from me.
I am forever grateful for your voice.
Speak your truth even if your voice is shaking.
GREG WE WILL LOVE ALWAYS.
I JUST HOPE THEY FIND WHO MURDERED YOU.
UNCLE MIKE AND AUNT PENNY R.I.P.
This is Domestic Violence. This is Rage..This is loss
This is but one of the victims of George. This is what a
Civil Society needs to speak to. This is Grief….there are
No answers…you will never have an answer that will
Ever console you.
This is unrelenting pain and sorrow
like i said before; im his cousin; im not blaming ketra & i dont think she did it; & it is wrong what he did to her but he doesnt deserve to die; i know she is a great mom to those beautiful girls & i know they will be taken care of. but i still do not believe my cousin killed hisself & i do not believe it was an appropiate thing to post this article in those words if the WHOLE TRUTH IS NOT KNOWN! but anywho me; nor the rest of my family nor gregs friends will not have to be clueless much longer; the autopsy will be competed soon & we will know the truth; wether its what we want or not;
Astrid, you sound like a reasonable Gal- if you find that he was murdered let us know – we will post that too.
I realize his friends and family are upset and I appreciate you are not bashing his wife and children.
The truth is not yet known except that She did not strangle herself- disguise her voice as a 7 year old and call it in that much we do know, and that is what I was blogging about. We are a blog about violence against women- plain and simple. 100 women a day are hurt by their husbands – 5 a day die – the family of those 5 guys love those guys too. We know that!.
We also see men take and murder wives and children and then themselves- your friend may have left her for dead then committed suicide.
But you are right – we don’t know.
this is a first for you and your family and you are in shock but we see a hundred a day- this is not so new to us! I am sorry that you found this post in the first place – I am sorry my two daughters were so horribly abused and I am sorry there is so much horror in this world.
We are trying to stop it that is why we report it and try to bring it to light and try to give hope to women and children stuck in domestic violence- we try to get them to gt out!
We hope by bringing these stories – we can shake them out of their stupor and convince them to get away from danger. Male or female – there is NEVER ever a good reason to hit another person.
Again – I am sorry the friends and family found this blog- this particular case hit me hard this particular week – it was too close to my own case- – if we had not saved George from suicide … my daughters … well he would be gone and they would be here instead. But we saved him and now he lives and Idon’t know why he lives instead of them! Its a mother’s grief from the other side- as Peter said there is another side!
i totally agree here! i seen greg and ketra had their ups and downs but what relationship doesnt. and you are so right because this article should not have been published until all the facts were out because it just caused a place for people to take out their rage and anger on others who are grieving and i know greg is looking down on ths with a frown on his face because he did not like fighting or people being mad at eachother.he was a very calm peaceful happy go lucky person who always tried to bring out the best of a bad situation REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE READ………
i love you greg && i hope ketra tells your girls how much you loved them! RIP GREG TURNER;
i agree again. i hope ketra does tell them girls how much greg loved them because they were his reason for breathing everyday. the sparkes in gregs eyes everytime he talks about them girls is just amazing. and i can say he actually taught my husband how to be more active as a father to our 2 children!
RIP GREG TURNER 😦
Astrid,
I am sincerely sorry for the pain that this tragedy has caused
Everyone involved as I said you all need to seek counseling
I see the consequences of violence everyday..it rips the
Soul of families apart.
The children will need all your love and support and counselors
Will advise you how to do that for them as well.
It’s heartbreaking for all, even those who watch from a. A distance.
Blessings to you all
Please find counseling because when you learn if it is
Suicide you will have that to deal with as well. I have seen domestic violence end in suicide many
Times both the victim and the abuser.
Suicide besides being a selfish act is the most violent
Act one can commit..the murder of ones self.
Wether he was murdred by the violence of another or by himself
Please get out a local phone book and find counseling
Please don’t lose site of Ketras loss for no matter
what Greg was once her Prince Charming, her Knight
In shinning armour and he will forever be the father
of her children.
This is domestic violence…this is the heartbreak
No one walks away untouched by it.
NOBODY IS LOOSING SITE OF KETRAS LOSS….SHE IS SUFFERING AND WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER EVERYDAY SHE LOOKS INTO HER CHILDRENS EYES AND SEES GREGS FACE, OR SMILE, OR JUST A SILLY WORD HE WOULD SAY. AND ITS GOING TO BE HARD TO RAISE TWO GIRLS WITHOUT A DAD THAT THEY WERE SO CONNECTED TO……THEY WERE REALLY DADDYS GIRLS! IT IS GOING TO BE HARD TO ADJUST TO NOT HAVING HIM AROUND WHEN SHE NEEDS A LITTLE PICKIN UP WHEN THINGS GET TOUGH, WHEN THE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE CRYING FOR HIM AND THERES NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO BUT HOLD THEM AND LOVE THEM. ITS MOST DEF GOING TO BE HARD ON HER FOR THE TRAUMA SHE EXPERIENCED TO BE ASSAULTED IN THE MANNER SHE WAS ASSAULTED IN. I COULD NOT IMAGIN HAVING TO EXPERIENCE THAT…..
Okay, okay, okay, enough is enough!!! Greg Turner was an amazing person, friend, and most importantly a great father! Was he a man with faults, yes he was, just like every other human being out there. It is very easy for anyone to read these news reports and stories and see Greg as an animal, I can see that. But, what happened was a very unfortunate incident that yes, unfortunately his children did witness, but does that make up for all the times they watched their mother belittle, cut-down, criticize, and abuse their father. Everyone asks why he didn’t leave, maybe it’s because he loved his girls and couldn’t imagine his life with out them, and he knew if he left he would not be allowed to see them because of their mother. It is very easy for people to call him a coward and say he turned his back on everyone he knew, but how does that fit now that it is a known fact that he was MURDERED! It is very easy for people to say that his family and true close friends are only on his side and that they don’t understand any other point of view and I can tell you that is not the case, but maybe just maybe his family and friends know more about Greg and Ketra than random people who have never met them. I saw on here that someone said that they hoped his mother didn’t have access to this blog, well she does and so does Greg’s whole family and Ketra’s family does also. The Turner family is sad and is still in shock, they are sad about their loss of a son, nephew, brother, cousin, uncle, and most importantly a friend! His family is worried about the safety and well-being of the girls, how it has and will impact them the rest of their lives, and what’s even harder the scary thought that after all this they will more than likely never see them or have contact with them because of their mother. This is not a stab a Ketra, she has been through a lot and will continue to go through hell and for that I send many prayers. I just ask that everyone takes a step back and sees all sides of the story and understands the investigation is still ongoing and NO ONE has all the answers. There are more sides to this story than Greg and Ketra, each girl has a side, each family member of Greg and Ketra have a side. Also, just because friends are saying stuff about the situation and each person, does not mean that they are speaking for either family, it just means they are a friend and have an opinion. Thank you!
OMG I COULDNT AGREE WITH YOU MORE!
I AM A FRIEND OF BOTH GREG AND KETRA. I HAD A BETTER FRIENDSHIP WITH GREG THEN KETRA DUE TO HER SCHEDULE, BUT I LIKED THEM BOTH AND LOVED THE HECK OUT OF THEM BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRLS. I WAS DEVESTATED WHEN THEY MOVED FROM HAYWARD. BUT I AM JUST SPEAKING ON MYSELF AND MY FAMILY. I AM NOT TRYING TO SPEAK FOR ANYONE IS GREG OR KETRAS FAMILY AT ALL. I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ME…..
Concerned,
Could you please post a link where it shows that he was murdered?
Here’s the thing great parents don’t abuse each other in front of their children.
Both the Physical and the Verbal are forms of parents not only abusing each other but their children as well.
We are all products of our environment.
It is one of the many reasons we will never eradicate domestic violence.
Maybe we as a civil society need to take a good look at what we are turning our heads to.. the signs of abuse if your loved one is physically or verbally abusive than for the sake of the children speak up.
We live in fear of offending a loved one and I have done it as well but crap look at the results we have children listening and hearing this BS and believing it normal because no one says it is not normal. We need a huge adult training class in this country on what is great parenting. We need a huge training class for children on what is not great parenting.
Both families are suffering terribly and that is why I encourage you all to seek counseling.
But both families have to come together and put all else aside for the sake of these children. They need you all to be healthy, emotionally and spiritually I am sure they love you all.
I dont rely on the media for my information due to the fact that it does not always tell the truth as been proven already with this incident! My information comes from
one of the detectives that called the family and told them the autopsy results prove the wounds were not self inflicted and there was no weapon found. Once again I just want people to look at all sides of the story and be respectful of those who are hurting!
Concerned person,
That’s why I couldn’t find the results on the official O.C. site. Thought I had overlooked it.
What a sad situation for all, especially the children. This is occurring more and more in this country . Tragically, stories like this are not uncommon. There are different types of DV: verbal, emotional and physical. It is never ok for a man to put his hands on a women…never!! Even if she puts him down ect. he needs to just walk away. No excuse. Muscle mass, weight and height of men compared to women, makes the excuse that he did it in self defense as illogical as saying a gorilla needed to slap that bunny down in order to defend himself. Nonsense. Until EVERYONE has a no tolerance to DV mindset, these scenarios will continued to be played out in our society. BJ and others are trying to show that violence against women and children is should never be tolerated, no excuses. She is attempting to shine the light in an area where most want to stick their heads in the sand, and keep it there. Kudos to you BJ and GOD bless!
Thanks Claire- my concern is for the children – seems they are connected to a family that is going to raise their father up on a pedestal and trash their mother — this will destroy their entire life! Their behavior so far is indicitive of selfishness and no concern whatsoever for the future of the girls.
What they witness — unless they are taught immediately was wrong- will cause them to fall victim to also!
This folks want to turn him into an idol – I hope she runs far away with these girls and gets them help. They are going to need it.
Imagine them growing up thinking this guy is a saint?
Think about that Aunt Penny- think about the girls – they are still alive!
Concerned,
First we will await the outcome and if it is found to be a murder – we will correct this headline to reflect he was murdered.
Next- Unless you can provide proof that he was –as you wrote belittled abused etc etc etc – you are cating aspursions on the Ketra but you don’t want any cast upon Greg.
In addition, there is proof that he abused her – she was found strangled and unconscious!
Finally,
If Greg was murdered- he had to have had enemies- perhaps his violent outbursts had something to do with drugs or gambling debts which led to the murder. Quite often men get into trouble and take it out on their wives.
You seem all to quick to make him into an angel will all the proof pointing only toward his dirty deeds. The fact if he was murdered only heightens the suspicions he was into something he should not have been messing with.
Or are you suggesting Ketra did it?
this comment was way out of line…….
nowhere do you get any info on drugs, gambling debts, or any other bullshit liket hat to continue to cast stones….what you are not hearing is that we know greg has his faults…who doesnt. nobody on gods green earth is free from sin, but just because he has had faults in his life ketra chose to stay. when he was arrested on the 9th if she was in fear for her life and he was such a monster why didnt she press charges on him then……because she didnt feel threatened, she didnt fear for her life….hello…..look into the facts dont just read them…feel them make sense of what you are reading.
I lived with Greg, and Ketra used to bring over friends (male friend she was sleeping with) when she’s be mad at Greg to try to get him ‘beat up’ but we always had his back till she tricked him to move to CA. Sad, and glad the autopsy proves it was murder. God never sleeps. The murder will be found, RIP GREG, you will be missed by your REAL FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
Sad,sad,sad. I agree with Claire; NO excuse for a man to put his hands on a woman, or child. The irony of this situation ; if Greg did walk away , left his wife and tried to get custody of the children, he would have been granted said custody. Most people today have no clue how men rule in family court. Even abusive men.
Kudos to you B.J!!! Keep up the good work.
Ok so now he was not only a victim – he was murdered and has been an asshole for a decade putting up with a cheating girlfriend and just sitting around taking it all until he finally snapped.
Meanwhile everyone know this about Ketra and poor wonderful kindhearted Greg was so crazy in love with Ketra the whore- where have i heard this before ? Oh yeah that’s right – in every damned story when they are trying to cover a guys’ sorry ass.
Since the beginning of time you bid bad boyz have being blaming the women and craying WHORE! I feel so sorry for any women who gets stuck with you sorry cowards!
Dear Roommate,
I will wait for the OC coroners report to post and then I will forward to freemenow.
While searching for information about this tragedy I found this add on to the Turner story about their Verona place apartment.
“Verona Place is the same UCI apartment complex where Brian Hughes Benedict is alleged to have chased his ex-wife Rebecca Clarke out of her unit on Sept. 13, 2009, before shooting her to death in the parking lot. Their 4-year-old son was strapped into a car seat in the lot at the time.”
One year ago a 4 year old watched his father shoot his mother.
Seriously what are we doing to our children?
A new generation of violence is born. No matter how much we to speak to it..somewhere out there it is being witnessed by the innocent who are losing parents to violence by the hands of those they love.
So very sad.
Oh Geeze Barbara now you’ve done it! Now we are going to have the Brian Hughes Benedict family after us telling us all about what a sweet wonderful guy he was and all his homies are gonna come out and tell us what a slut Rebecca Clarke must have been.
Ready set go- Pete go find the Benedict family and see if you can get a new attack going – I will go get another box of twinkies and some cany bars ready,
And don’t think for one minute that the man’s family isn’t mourning their son – I know they are but that does not change for one darn minute that he is a killer!
wow you bitches talk alot of shit behind your little computer screen……
wow, Stacy, you have been cursing the women on this blog for hours. What does that accomplish?
I WILL CURSE HER TIL THE END OF TIME IF SHE WANTS TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE SHE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT OTHER THEN WHAT SHE READS…AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT SHES READING IS NOT THE WHOLE TRUTH. PEOPLE WANT TO OFFEND ME AND MY FRIENDS DURING OUR TIME OF GRIEF AND PAIN AND UNKNOWING THE WHOLE DETAILS. THEY JUST TOOK AN INCIDENT THAT MADE THE NEWS AND RAN WITH IT. INSTEAD OF BEING OUT THERE REALLY PROTECTING PEOPLE AND EDUCATING THEM HOW TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF THING FROM HAPPENING THEY ARE TOO BUSY TALKING SHIT ON A DEAD MAN…..IF ITS ANY OF YOUR CONCERN AT ALL……
Ladies – lets keep looking into this – I am sick to death of victimizing the women – I want to follow this one – lets stay on it!
Greg’s Aunt Penny,
You say they left Texas but not because of him. You have no proof- if you do we will be happy to print it!
the only proof we have is a strangled women and a child’s call to the cops and facts that he was arrested in the past.
These are the only facts we have. If you have FACTS- by all means – let us know . We no more want children in the hands of a dangerous woman than a dangerous man – but so far all we have is a beaten women, a dead man, terrified children and a family who insists this women is evil!
We have been told she is evil- a whore- a pig- violent- the reason they left the state – the reason he supposedly snapped, one guy aalluded that she had a lover kill Greg and now you want us to forget all the facts in the case and concentrate on a possible murder?
If all this is true – I will even find you a Ghost writer – we will make this into a movie ! I promise a full retraction if poor Greg somehow turns into the victim here!
You say it is official – he is murdered. Where are the news reports – can you send links please? We will be glad to update the blog to show he was murdered as soon as the formal reports say so – I promise.
Hmmmm,
after reading more – I find it so heartbreaking for the girls. It sounds like when things were going well the girls had 2 parents who loved them dearly. How could these two people get to this point? These two babies – how horrible for them- and for the families — the whole thing aint a pretty picture that is why we fight so hard to try to find an answer to DV- we must stop it . So many people are hurt by this- it is not a silent problem is it? Good night folks
Well said, BJ.
So many times I read about women who have been killed or nearly killed by their husbands or lovers, and the killer then kills himself. So often a man who has beaten his wife or lover is released from jail only to commit more violent acts.
As I would expect everyone to acknowledge, statistically, men are by far more likely than women to commit violent acts against intimate partners. When I read the post, the story of Greg Turner fit right in line with every other story I’ve read for years about domestic violence. I see a lot of comments from various people trying to spin the story into being focused on Greg Turner and how he was wronged by Ketra. Comments that suggest there should be some equality to criticizing perpetrators of domestic violence as if Ketra somehow drove Greg to hurt her and then himself. If the reporter got the facts wrong, then the family and friends of Greg should be focused on the news source to get a correction instead of attacking people at this site. There is no equality of abuse – men by far are the perps.
I am so weary of the continued efforts either with this couple or another to cast the blame on the woman for somehow driving the man to his illegal conduct. When will abusers start taking responsibilty for what their bodies do? If only women had the mysterious control abusers and their defenders attribute to us, we could end domestic violence and sexual abuse right now! Not one more child would be raped or killed! No woman would be in fear of rape or death at the hands of a man. No child would be harmed by their fathers or the boyfriends of their mothers. No child would be the target of sexual predators at school or in the neighborhood or at the mall.
Sometimes I think the men who commit violent acts and then blame the women they abused as if the women are in control are expressing a primordial fear of the Goddess Nemesis or the Great Cosmic Mother who once was worshipped all over the world before people realized the role men play in conception. Tracking the history of the species, it is fair to say that men have used their physical power to control individuals and groups once it was known that women did not spontaneously produce children with the help of a Great Spirit or other deity. People have forgotten that we are all closely connected with one another, Earth, and all life. Woman, as the source of life in our species, is naturally reviled by men frustrated with their own failure to control or have power. We have to create a present and future where violence is not acceptable. Thank you BJ for what you do towards that dream!
I am glad for Greg Turner’s sake that he was loved by his family and friends. What a heartbreak for his children that he did not get help when he needed it and instead allowed himself to hurt the mother of his children and then himself. Violence towards others and towards oneself is against the natural laws of creation and love. I pray every day for the families I read about and those known to me where violence has occurred or could re-occur. In 99 of 100 cases I have read about, the perpetrator is a man. I pray for the abusers that they find peaceful means of living every day. I pray for the victims that they have the support they need to safely exit abusive relationships. I pray for the children who live in fear every day. Wouldn’t it be a lovely Christmas if every woman, child and man experienced respect, peace and love instead of anger and hate?
Actually,as a man who have been in a couple of violent relationships,given a bloody nose and a Black eye,and could Not defend myself without Fear of Un Justified Jail Time,i’am Offended by Your Statistics and they are Not Factual.I called the Cops one Time ,because my ex girlfriend Chased me with aknife,bit a small hole in my chest and They Told me “You must be at least 190lbs”and Laughed.No Joke.I Can Defend myself if needed,but was Scared of Being ARRESTED for putting Marks on Her Hand,becuase that is Physical,to Hold some one’s Fists from Hitting my Face,because she was a small woman.Where’s the Justice?They Arrested me for Defending Myself and Wanted me to Take Up Anger Managemant,I said”No”,and the case was dismissed due to inconclusive evidence.Cause i was the Victim.So Please,Please Think outside your Norm.Heck!Look at Today’s Tv Shows,Woman will Slap,Hit,Pinch,and
punch a Guy,and the Aduience will Laugh,We’ll it’s Not a Funny Matter,and it’s Unfortunate but they ONLY Notice the Bad in it ,When a Guy does the hitting/slapping or punching.Go Ahead and Watch Tv and See for yourself,Tv is BREEDING this type of Society.Girls Can Hit Boys=Ok,but Boys who Hit Girls=CRIMINALS.
what part of Keep your hands to yourself do youot understand? no one here has said its ok for a woman to hit a man. Violence is violence.
Have you given much thought to the fact Carlos that people can’t argue with themselves? it takes 2 people to argue it takes 2 people to be in a violent altercation. the police are trained to arrest the person who they believe is the batterer and who displays anger, hence anger mangement courses were and should have been demanded upon your release cause you display the typical signs of an abuser
now for what you have stated as correct TV is breeding Violence, so is the rap music your generation listens to”kill the Bitch” etc etc
it is not appropiate for girls to hit boys nor is it ever appropiate for a boy to hit a girl…they grow up to be parents that hit each other and show their children its ok to hit and then their children hit and it goes on and on and never ends.
get counseling please
I am getting email after email stating that it has turned into a murder of grag not a suicide and asking if she is still th victim! What a stupid question!
YES she is still the victim- she and her children are still the ictims – she was strangled nearly to death and their children saw it and wound up in protective custody and that makes them victims!
Can you hear me yet?
Until you prove to me that Ketra strangled herself she will be a victim- case closed!
NOBODY HAS SAID THAT KETRA STRANGLED HERSELF OR THAT THE KIDS ARE LYING ABOUT WHAT THEY SEEN. TRUTH IS NOBODY WAS THERE SO THEY CANNOT SAY ANYTHING. HE WAS MURDERED. AND YES KETRA IS A VICTIM, SHES A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND NOW LEFT A WIDOWED MOTHER. AND HER CHILDREN ARE VICTIMS. HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY ARE VICTIMS, HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY ARE ALL VICTIMS. AND PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE GOT ALL THE FACTS ON THIS STORY BEFORE THEY PUBLISHED ANYTHING AND STARTED THE HATE BASHING.
BUT GREG WAS ALSO A VICTIM AND PEOPLE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT TOO. YES HE MADE SOME REALLY BAD MISTAKES BUT THAT DID NOT MEAN HE SHOULD BE DEAD……
DO YOU HEAR ME???
GREG IS ALSO A VICTIM
DID YOU HEAR IT
GREG IS A VICTIM ALSO
GREG IS A VICTIM TOOO
JUSTICE FOR GREGORY SCOTT TURNER
Police report on Wed-12/15/10 the day of the incident- 225 lb 6 ft man apparently left a dying woman on the floor and the children alone and indeed the child called the police or their mother wouold also be dead. Any question as to if Ketra and the girls are victims here– should be answered by the follow police report!
Irvine police are currently looking for a UC Irvine undergraduate student who is suspected of attempted murder.
At 2:20 p.m. Wednesday, police received a 911 call from a child in need of assistance for her mother. When police arrived at Verano Place apartments near UCI, they found that the victim had been beaten, strangled and was unconscious. The suspect is the husband, Gregory Scott Turner, who had fled the scene.
The 33-year-old Turner is described as 6 feet tall, Caucasian and 225 pounds. Police believe he fled the scene in a blue 2006 Chevrolet truck. The license plate is 8P53538. Friends told police that Turner was having thoughts of suicide after the incident.
see police report- pdf- greg confided to a friend while on the run he is going to commit suide- http://www.police.uci.edu/awareness/alerts1/2010/WantedPersonGregoryTurner121510.pdf
The victim was taken to the hospital and is recovering. Her two children are in the care of Child Protective Services.
Still on the run 24 hours later police are still reporting – wife was strangled – children were witnesses- wife has not reported someone else strangled her – husband has not shown up to deny he strangled her – daughters is still the one who called and reported what 225 lb stocky 6 ft daddy did to mommy:
Daily News Wire Services
Posted: 12/16/2010 08:57:26 AM PST
Updated: 12/16/2010 09:01:09 AM PST
IRVINE – A 33-year-old UC Irvine student who allegedly tried to strangle his wife in their on-campus home in front of their two young daughters was at large today, a police sergeant said.
The domestic violence-attempted murder was reported at 2:20 p.m. Wednesday when Gregory Scott Turner allegedly beat, choked and tried to kill his wife, leaving her unconscious, according to police.
The girls were not injured, and one of them called 911, UCI spokesman Tom Vasich said.
The injured woman was hospitalized and was recovering, and the daughters were in the care of Child Protective Services, Vasich said.
Turner fled from UCI’s on-campus Verano Place Housing in a royal blue Chevrolet pickup truck with California license plate 8P53538, according to UC Irvine police.
Turner is described as white, 6 feet tall, 225 pounds and stocky, with brown hair and brown eyes. He remained at large as of 1:30 a.m. today, UCI police Sgt. Richard Worcester said.
Anyone with information about Turner’s whereabouts was urged to call UCI police at 949-824-5223.
University officials issued a warning Wednesday night to students, faculty and other campus residents.
“Please be especially aware of your surroundings during this period of low campus occupancy,” Vasich said. “Be alert to suspicious activity and practice personal safety and security.”
Irvine and UCI police planned to “heavily patrol Verano Place Housing and the campus throughout the night and into the morning,” Vasich said.
His wife, Ketra Batiste-Turner, 32, was taken to a local hospital. She was released Friday. The couple’s two children, ages 5 and 7, were placed in protective custody. Batiste-Turner and the children are expected to be reunited in the next few days.
Officers began homing in on Turner on Friday when they were able to triangulate his location with the use of his cellphone’s signal. “It wasn’t an exact location, but it gave officers a general area,” Vasich said. “They later found the truck and discovered his body.”
UCI police are continuing their investigation into Turner’s death.
Stacy Pardini
Yes, we “talk a lot shit from behind our computer screen”..we talk about all the shitty violence directed at women ..domestic violence, honor killings, stonings, be headings, acid throwing, bride burnings, female genital mutilation, sexual slavery, human trafficking, child marriages, gendercide, suppression, sexism, misogyny,the rights and equality of girls and women all over the globe. Lots of shit happening to women out there because well she’s a “Bitch” and “she deserved it” and “it is written “we believe it’s always her fault”, “she is responsible for his inability to control himself” and the hundreds of other shitty excuses used to make everyone and everything but her the victim.
We not only talk about it we attempt to do something about the 1 billion women who are Vanished, murdered, mutilated, tortured because society believes she is disposable.
Begin by understanding that calling a woman a BITCH and defending the fact that another human being tried to strangle her and left her unconscious perpetuates the belief that she is disposable.
That belief is not welcome here because that belief is dangerous to ALL women..including you Stacy.
FIRST OFF
NEVER ONCE HAVE I CALLED KETRA A BITCH OR SAID ANYTHING OF THE SORTS NEGATIVE ABOUT HER. AND I NEVER EVER TRIED TO DEFEND THE FACT THAT SHE WAS STRANGLED AND LEFT UNCONCIOUS. SHE IS A FRIEND OF MINE THAT I WOULD NEVER WANT ANYTHING LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN TO, OR IN FRONT OF HER CHILDREN WHOM I CARE FOR. I AM NOT GLORIFYING THE FACTS THAT MY FRIEND ABUSED HIS WIFE, NOR AM I GLORIFYING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND I GREW UP IN A HOUSEHOLD WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SO NEVER WOULD I SAY THAT WHAT HE DID IS JUSTIFYABLE. BUT HE DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE….
(((((((( HEATHER))))))))
any grown responsible adult would never tell a child thier parents didnt love them; so of course my family would want the girls to know greg loved them because they was his reason for living; even the wife says “this was not greg, he would never do that especially in front of the two girls that mean the most to him” but the girls also know their mom loves them; talking down on someone else does not bring him back; but yall talking down on him && my family doesnt make it better either; im not understanding the purpose for the harsh words; what dont you get? MY COUSIN IS DEAD! my GOD! help these people who dont have respect for the deceased; like i said before what he did was wrong; but if he would still be alive his wife && kids would have forgave him & welcomed him back into their arms; but yall wouldnt know that because yall do not know them!
AMEN!
i also understand that domestic violence goes on everyday to millions of women; but is it really always the guys fault; i mean if i hit a guy ima expect him to hit me back; im putting myself in that place right? && for the innocent women; i know sometimes its hard to walk away but how is it the guys fault if you stay?
You expect a guy to hit you? It’s not the guys fault if you stay? What the hell is wrong with your women? No wonder so many women are hurt and killed every day!
For God’s sakes wake up. It’s because they get no support from other women – women like you who say they deserve it!
One of these days one of your female family members are going to end up dead and you will be here bitching about the guy who did it!
I am sick of your whining already! Get lost you are pitiful! PITIFUL- do you hear me? I am tired of wasting my time on women who sit hear and say they deserve to be hit and expect it. You are the reason my daughter was hurt! You are the reason those two girls had to see what they saw!
You are guilty – you the women who perpetuate this crap! Look in the mirror and look at who is guilty here- it’s you and your pitiful bullshit!
Next you will go mollycoddle another abuser and make excuses for him and blame another victim and lay your head down at night without any guilt- and tell me how the hell you do it without conscience?
Never mind- You have no conscience- just like the monster himself.
Astrid,
We should learn as children Keep your hands to yourself”
I am not sure why you believe you should hit a man or
Anyone for that matter?
Therefore I have a problem with you expecting to be hit
back.
There are many reasons why women welcome their abuser
Back with open arms, there are many reasons why women
Stay in abusive relationships., there are many reasons why
Women defend their abusers .Check out some DV sites
Its not about whose “fault” it is it is about the violence
that has invaded our homes at crisis levels because
somehow some believe it appropriate to put their hands
On another human being.
The person who commits an act of violence is the criminal
and the person who has an act of violence committed
against them is the victim….PERIOD
LIKE WE HAVE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE THAT YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO LISTEN TO
THE VIOLENCE WENT BOTH WAYS IN THIS RELATIONSHIP……
SO THEY ARE BOTH VICTIMS
AND JUST BECAUSE GREG IS NO LONGER HERE WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO KNOW THE REAL TRUTH OF WHAT HAPPEND
No matter how violent a man may be, there are always folks that will deny his behavior and start to attack his victims, claiming the victim deserved it.
Look at how many jailed murders have groupie women that want to marry them, even on death row.
Billie Jo ,
you are so right – thanks for posting – you just reminded me to calm down and remember it takes all kinds. Both my daughters were victims and it pains me so to hear these women taking up for him like this and Ilose patience but your comment coming from someone I don’t know reminds me that its true- .Thanks for reminding us all that there is a butt for every toilet seat!
Billiejo
How very true and here iit is right here.
As someone who is sitting here with a broken collarbone and unable to earn a living and pay mounting medical bills because someone believed they could hit me I am having a huge problem with Astrid who believes she can not only hit someone but also expects to be hit back.
I think it time for a lesson in Keep your hands to do yourself
and since it seems that many of the women are having problems with this message its for All who believe that violence is an appropriate response to rage.
Now I have to run to a ortho to see if I will need surgery.
I just heard on the NYC news that the body of a beaten
woman was found stuffed in a suitcase in NYC..anyone
want to say…..SHE deserved this????
Maybe she did it to herself? Maybe she hit a man and
He just hit her back? Maybe Maybe we have a crisis
On out hands. Wake up America
I am praying this demented belief is. Just restricted
to this family but I am also crying because I don’t think
It is!!
Have a Blessed Day.
Maybe the woman battered and bruised stuffed in a
suitcase was a WHORE ? A Bitch? She surly was a
Cunt who pissed someone off…GEEZ she should of just have kept her damn mouth shut now some great guy will be held accountable for beating her up and murdering her.
Why the hell didn’t she just agree to have sex with him now some great guy will have his life destroyed by being called a rapist and will go to prison for beating her and murdering her when all he wanted was a piece of ass
Well said Barbara!
Wouldn’t you just love to meet the prize packages these women are hooked up with? Lucky men they are – their wives know how to take a punch and keep on tickin!
maybe yall should analyze things different since you just jump right to runnin your mouths; i never been in violence i was saying i would NOT hit a man because i would NOT want to get hit by a man; damn dumbasses! nobody is saying its okay; all im saying is you cant help these poor women getting abused if they dont wanna help thierselves & thats the TRUTH! take it how you want! && pitiful is what you are; regardless what one has done his family will ALWAYS love him! you dont have the right to degrade us for loving him; you have kids right? im sure you wouldnt disown them no matter what crime they did right? think about it! im not sayin he was innocent but damn dont blame us for being a family.
COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER!
Such a sad sad world at times,
BJ and BARB: you are so right on, and I know alot
of us know what that wife went thru, by our own experiences in one way or another.
How sad there is so much support for him, and no shame. I don’t have any answers, but I do know and understand the pain and the process of destruction violence and ABUSE causes.
May they all dance in hell for what they do,
that’s my prayer for today.
YOU BELONG IN HELL BITCH…
JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES IN THEIR LIVES DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE MONSTERS OR EVIL.
Michelina,
Obviously none of these Gals have ever been strangled by a 6 ft 225 lb mad mad – father of your terrified daughters who your hear screaming while you are hurt- and loosing consciencness and fearing death at the hands of the man you love.
The terror of facing death anytime let alone at the hands of your superhero – being rendered unconcoious!
These folks have absolutely no thought – no regard – no concern – they make me absolutely sick to my stomache.
I sent a condolence card to the immedate family for their loss – they are inncoent and I understand that loss all to well as a parent who lost children. But this indifference to his actions and for Ketra and the girls is indicitive of a kind of people unexplicable and intolerable!
Inhuman – selfish and monsterous- and they just don’t get it!
wow freemenow your such a fat fuckin bitch get the dildo outta your mouth go lose some weight an get laid quit talkin shit that you know nothing about what if this was your son I wouldn’t wish anyone to do this to him so get a fuckin life
AMEN
The only one who knows exactly what happen is the Good LORD above. In whom we should be praying to for answer in this situation. Becasue not one of us can bring Greg back, or change what happen between Greg & Ketra. I pray that the family members on both sides can receive peace and love for their grievances, hurt and pain. Because another human being thought that it was okay to take a persons life. So instead of trying to judge either parties try saying a PRAY FOR EACH OF THE FAMILIES INVOLVED. BUT FOR THERE IS ONLY ” 1 ” JUDGE, AND THAT JUDGE IS NOT HUMAN. IT IS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. WHOM EVERY ONE WILL ANSWER TO ONE DAY!!!!!!!
amen to this i totally agree! im glad someone can look past what they heard and how they feel about the situation to see that it has affected alot of people in many different ways and that no matter what they have done it does not give anyone the right to take another persons life. or try to take another persons life.
You’re cursing a woman who has lost 2 daughters to
Domestic Violence… So how about you crawl back
Into the cave under the rock you crawled out of.
bitch how bout you make me
im going to continue to curse someone who bashes someone before the truth is told.
Take a look at Freeryders comment..this is rage..this is why Ketra was strangled and left for dead this is why 2 small daughters will forever be traumatized this is why a mother grieves a family mourns this is why Greg is dead this is why it will never end. Uncontrollable RAGE.
I don’t believe what I’m reading here.
They say “Jesus” is coming back to earth May 21st, 2011——–None to soon as far as I’m concerned.
Peace and Joy to all my Puma’s / Rid’s and women and children, who so desperately need it
No updates on the Orange County Sheriff’s Coroner report. No changes, corrections, updated or amendments on earlier press reports of the incident.
Note: What truly amazes me is the people that come to a Anti-Domestic Violence website and can’t understand that we don’t support domestic violence and that we report on domestic violence.
I’m sorry that it is their relative and I’m sorry for their loss.
If you don’t want to read about DV, that fine. Just please don’t come to a DV site and expect us to act differently for you.
Please understand that for someone else this story could be the turning point in their life and motivate them to get themselves and their children, out of a horrible and life threatening situation. That is what we do here, we actively work with shelters, DV counseling programs, police depts when they bring DV victims into hospitals, etc.
Whether it is the woman, the man or a child asking for the help. The resources have to be out there.
Again, I’m sorry for your loss and yes I acknowledge that this is horribly upsetting for you, at the same time, if it helps someone else in the same situation to get the help they need, then it is a great legacy.
you know when alot of us first entered this site it was to look for updates regarding what happened to greg. so its not like we just came on here to stir up shit on your blogs. BUT… you have to admit that this topic would have been completely different it was known from the gate that greg was murdered in the headlines and news. thats why alot of friends and family members are angry and hurt. because we know there is more to this story then you guys can see. as is to every other story. but if you had all the facts from the gate it would play out different. and you cannot expect people who are still in shock and denial about the whole situation to see a blog about someone we care about in such negativity……. sympathize with the shock you come to find when you look for an update and you come across bashing and more hatred. you cannot solve hatred with hatred…….no matter how you look at it your bashing is hatred and negativity and the more you promote negativity, the more you are going to get negativity in response.
I came across this page a few days ago while trying to find any kind of update about Greg. To my surprise it was not what I thought it was. Instead, I found this site exploiting the siuation to suit her own beliefs and needs saying that Greg was better off dead and broke into a song upon hearing about what happened. This really angered me. I see that I am not alone :). FMN, I do feel for you and your daughters. I know you help alot of people but you see some of your supporters are missing the point. ABUSE IS ABUSE and it does not matter if you are man or woman it is not right, no matter what the statistics say. I hope that you help all victims of DV and not just stay focused on just women.
To your other supporters,
Just because a man abused you doesn’t mean you should hate all men the rest of your life.
Freeryder,
“..this is rage..this is why Ketra was strangled and left for dead this is why 2 small daughters will forever be traumatized this is why a mother grieves a family mourns this is why Greg is dead this is why it will never end. Uncontrollable RAGE”
you need to know that what you are viewing as RAGE is actually a part of the grieving process. You see, there are 5 stages of grief. It is a part of life and EVERYONE in this world goes through it.
Stage 1 – Anger
Stage 2 – Denial
Stage 3 – Bargaining
Stage 4 – Depression
Stage 5 – Acceptance
Everyone grieves in their own way and nobody but nobody can tell you that your way is wrong.
Family and friends of Greg Turner stay strong!
Stacy,
Yes, we understand the 5 stages of grief. Again, sadly you are wrong, most of us are married with exceptional husbands.
Many of us suffered abuse at the hands of all types of men and some women. Be they fathers, uncles, grandfathers, family friends, cousins, nephews, etc. Also mothers, aunts, nieces, grandmothers, family friends etc.
This site is for all Domestic Violence victims and we write about the abuse, death and expoitation of women, men and children around the nation and the world.
You would have noticed that if you had looked at any of the other stories posted here.
We are all aware of the stages of grief which is why
I have been recommending counseling…both your anger
and your denial are apparent.. You’re focused on
Greg and his “murder” and Not the reality that He
Is responsible for all your pain.
Please seek counseling…and if this is the place to vent
and heal then so be it. Suicide is the most violent
Acts and it leaves a family devastated for life.
Please those little girls need you to be healthy not angry or
in denial.
Gods Peace to you ALL
i couldnt have said it better…..
NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE HAS TO SAY; HIS FAMILY && FRIENDS WILL DEFEND HIS NAME AS LONG AS WE CAN; ITS ONE THING TO TRY TO HELP OTHERS CHANGE THEIR LIVES; MAYBE YOU SHOULD LEARN HOW TO DO WITHOUT DEGRADING PEOPLE; I LOVE YOU GREG && I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER THE MEMORIES WE SHARED! I WILL REMEMBER YOU FOR THE GREAT SON, BROTHER, FATHER, NEPHEW, GRANDSON, UNCLE, & COUSIN THAT YOU WAS! you know this whole week i been reading && commenting on this i have gotten so angry & upset, but now that i think about, for what? my cousin is with the good lord above because GOD forgives all sins; and i know he wouldnt want me or the rest of my family or his friends being upset over what a person who doesnt even know him has to say; dont put down my cousin or my family for what you or other women have been through; blame the man who did it. if ketra doesnt even have anything bad to say yall sure the hell dont have a right! shes the victim right? i bet even she wouldnt agree with what you have said!
Astrid,
I am sorry for your grief. It is always hard to lose a family member. I sm keeping that in mind when I respond to you or any of the posters.
I am sorry that you feel attacking us is a way to assuage your grief and anger. I do however understand that it is the most you can do right now, because it is impossible to change the circumstances that you are in.
I don’t hate anyone no you, not men in general and not even my abuser. God has the final say in everything.
Goofsmom once again the words from a deeply caring
person.
There is NO hate here for another human being
WE hate the violence…..look what it did to all your
Lives. I hate it I hate it…I am tired of picking women
Up off the floor battered and bruised…..I am tired of
Holding her children who can’t stop screaming
“My Mommy is dead” I am tired of looking family in
the eyes and saying “She’s Gone we tried everything” when deep in my heart I know we as a society haven’t tried everything to save her. I am tired of hearing her being told “you deserve it” or he just snapped let’s all just close our eyes and pretend he didn’t just try to kill you.
I am so tired of trying to explain why SHE whether battered and bruised down the block or thousands of miles away deserves a voice.
I am so damn tired of all the excuses for her murder, mutilation, torture and her being terrorized. No one takes responsible not a religion, not a culture, not a government, not a society not a loved one. Excuses…IN 2010 we are fighting for a Violence against women act, for the UN to recognize that a 7 year old is not a bride but a damn sex slave. Fighting for the ERA to be ratified, fighting for laws that simply say you batter you go to jail.
I am tired so tired of all the defending of religions, of cultures, of governments and of loved ones.
TIRED.
(((Barbara)))
It is hard to be an advocate against violence. Sending you strength.
And another thing I am tired of fighting for a women
Right to run for political office without being called
Bitch, cunt.
Done…. Maybe
Goofsmom
We are all each others strenght. Love You.ALL
Hugs to you and Goofs and Hubby for a blessed Christmas.
Hugs and a wonderful, warm blessed Christmas right back at you.
Turner family- this post was never directed at your family– and before you came attacking me and swearing at me and attacking Ketra – His name was not even in the title.
Remember the Caption read Failing to kill her he kills himself ?
First you attacked us then Ketra and just everyone you could find and now you are trying to make this look like we came out looking for his family in order to torture you all.
Shame on you and it is not going to work
Yes caption read “Failing to kill her he kills himself”!
But what you don’t seem to get is that HE DID NOT KILL HIM SELF, SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
When and if you prove that – when and if the news reports it that way – I will update my report !
As it stands now I am reporting what the police are reporting! I am not going to change the report based on the family request!
First of all, I didn’t request you to do anything, as far as iI know the family didn’t ask you to do anything. And it seems that the police isn’t leaking any inofrmation that is important to there investigation, with you be a reporter you should know this. That’s why you should have ALL THE FACTS before posting such renarks as in the begining. The first story reported isn’t always the true story.
Hey BJ
We ‘ve withstood more than this…Remember?
Hell I am a woman with a Fatwa on her head doesn’t
Shut me up one bit. Keep on speaking on.
One day women will be fREE.
From the bottom of my heart THANK YOU I am
Proud to call you Sister.
I love You Deeply Always
Happy and grateful for the news but who is the
Punk bastard?
sent via email instead
talkin shit via email now hmmmmm….
No Stacy – I answered a personal question about something else via email- this blog is about this dude not another punk bastard dude.
And we are still waiting for a coroners report or a news report that the death is suspicious or murder?
Well finally- they have gone away ! Now we are at peace until we get an update about whatever they find out happened to this character.
Reportedly he called a friend whil on the run and said he was suicidal.
nope….guess again we are not gone….we have lives and it is christmas time and alot of people were struck with this news and this bullshit you claim to be preventing. idk how you are preventing violence when you are bashing people offending others and making people angry……anger causes violence……but you are suppose to be some type of peace maker….MY ASS…..I THINK YOU PISS PEOPLE OFF AND TAKE THINGS OUT ON THEM BECAUSE YOU CANT ACCEPT THE CHOICE YOU MADE IN YOUR LIFE TO ALLOW YOUR DAUGHTERS ABUSER TO NOT SUCCEED IN SUICIDE…..AND THATS WHY HE GETS TO WALK THE STREETS AGAIN….IT WAS WITH YOUR HELP….AND YOU CANNOT LIVE WITH THE GUILT THAT YOU ALLOWED HIM TO BE FREE ONCE MORE………
Betty Jean, as always, I applaud your courage in speaking out against abuse and injustice and telling it as you see it. Yes, if the prosecutor had done their job, this man would be incarcerated but very likely still alive.
Look Mop moon- you are in effect asking me to do something – Yes caption read “Failing to kill her he kills himself”!
But what you don’t seem to get is that HE DID NOT KILL HIM SELF, SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are asking me and my readers to believe that he was murdered and your entire family as evidence by the illiteracy above have attacked this blog and Ketra mercilessly.
We have been sworn at and wished harm – we understand your grief so continue if you wish to show the tennor of this family of his. – it only serves to show the kind of rage he comes from!
I have sent my condolences privately by way of syapthy cards to the family who was innocent of the original crime- and a crime was committed to Ketra and that is the one I am concerned with in the article.
When and IF you have proof of a second crime and you want that one reported – point me to a police report and we will report on that one as well.
But keep in mind we will NOT – and I repeat WE will NOT soften our focus on the fact that this would be murderer was murdered himself in kind – should it turn out so!
In other words -if hewas runningfrom the cops and there was a shoot -out and he was killed – we would still say the creep was killed on the run!
The man was an abuser who but for the grace of God nearly killed his wife.
You folks are in here telling us that she would have forgiven him.
I don’t give a rats pituddy if she would have – I DONOT forgive a brute for beating a woman near to death.
CAN you hear me now?
His act was unforgivable – he was a brute and a coward and there is no excuse under this sky for me to feel sorry for any man for what happened!
He did it – he did it in the presence of his children – he ran and left those girls in trauma with what might have been a dying mother and the child had to call for the police . The children then had to be taken into custody.
There was an all point bulletin put out and he hid in shame for days . He called friends and said he was going to kills himself.
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!
Love him – pray for his miserable soul – who is stopping you?
Sure- I am sorry for your loss- I am NOT sorry for the loss of yet another likely murderer. Another batterer- another violator of women. I am not sorry he is one less to have to worry about and one less women had to look over her shoulder.
What don’t you get?
I will not back down because backing down is what gets women killed!
Your family said it many times above – if he was so bad why did she stay?
Well she and millions of other women stay because of foolish people like you who make excuses and say crap like – she would have forgiven him. And moron like you forgive the unforgivable !
His actions were UNFORGIVABLE – and I am not backing down!
Now you can call out every member of your family and sit here and swear at me till I die but I will not back down. He did what he did what he did and i can talk about that all I want and I will and I will warn other women not to take it no matter how hard the man’s family tried to destroy her for his sake.
And you know what- If I have to choose between who dies– I hope more men end up dead as doorknobs rather than the women they are trying to kill!
5 a day die at the hands of thier hero’s some hero your Greg.
YOU SAY YOU CANNOT FORGIVE GREG FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE…FIRST OF ALL YOU DONT KNOW HIM SO YOUR FORGIVENESS MEANS NOTHING TO NOBODY…..AND LIKE I STATED BEFORE THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU ARE SO HATEFUL YOURSELF IS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT DEAL WITH THE FACT OF THE CARDS YOU WERE DEALT IN YOUR LIFE……YOU CHOSE TO BE WITH AN ABUSER, YOUR KIDS CHOSE TO BE WITH AN ABUSER, AND YOU CHOSE TO SHOW SOME COMPASSION TO KEEP THAT MAN ALIVE BUT YOU SAY ITS OK FOR ANOTHER MAN TO DIE….
YOU ARE A HYPOCRIT
YOU ARE FAKE…NOTHING BETTER TO DO IN YOUR LIFE THEN TALK SHIT ABOUT PEOPLE ON THE COMPUTER AND TRY TO CALL IT HELPING PEOPLE ……YOU AINT HELPING NOBODY BECAUSE IF YOU WERE YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TO HELP THEN WORRYING ABOUT WHOS TALKING SHIT…….RIGHT?????
ARENT THERE MORE WAYS YOU CAN HELP PREVENT AND SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THEN SITTING HERE USING VERBAL VIOLENCE?????
WHY DONT YOU GO VOLUNTEER ALL THIS TIME YOU SPENT TALKING SHIT BACK AND FORTH PISSIN PEOPLE OFF AND CAUSING MORE HAVOK IN PEOPLES LIVES AND PUT IT TO GOOD USE…..GO FEED A HOMELESS PERSON OR A BATTERED CHILD LEFT IN A GROUP HOME……
AND YET YOU CALL YOURSELF HELPING PEOPLE…..
HMMMM…THINK ABOUT IT EVERYBODY HOW MUCH HELP HAS THIS DONE FOR ANY WOMAN WHO IS BEING ABUSED?????
this is gregs sister; i have been battered and beaten for 15 years by my husband so dont tell me i dont know what its like; first off you have no right to pass judgment on anybody! secondly if you have been through this than you would have turned to GOD! so keep your fuckin mouth shut about shit you dont know! she beat him by the way; shit! i still and ALWAYS will love my brother!
amen to that!
R.I.P GREG
Amanda tells you she has been battered and bruised for 15 years and you give her an “amen” and then a RIP to her brother the abuser
Seriously you should be offering her your HELP and not an AMEN>
Amanda- are you bragging about being beaten and battered for 15 years? No wonder your brother thought it was ok to beat his wife and no wonder their girls will end up being beaten.
Girl if you really loved your brother – you would not have given him permission to behave this way- if you want to blame someone start by looking in the mirror. Don’t blame me for his death – blame yourself- Good grief what a dysfunctiontion bunch of people.
What the hell is wrong with the whole lot of you? Each and every one of you scares the hell out of me- what the hell are you breeding out there wold animals? My Gid listen to yourself- do you think God wants this for …. why am I wasting my time on you fools?
I hope reasonable women read this and learn much about just jow stupid some women really are.
And I sure the hell hope Ketra is smarter than the rest of you.
This is Amanda I feel sorry for worthless ass bitches like you that are so quik to pass judgement on people you dont know. That just goes to show how sorry of a cunt you really are. And bragging no bitch but I told my brother and his dumb ass wife beat him bitch thats why the charges were dropped against him you stupid mother fucker. So get your fucking facts strait before you run your fat mouth. I got a friend that can stick something in your mouth since you like to run it so much. You must be just like Ketra a loud mouth, LAZY, WORTHLESS BITCH. You needed your ass beat no wonder your man beat your ass lol!!!!!! Go pass judgement on someone else!!!!!!! If it was so bad for Ketra she would have left 9 years ago, instead she stayed. So obviously it wasnt to fucking bad you loud mouth .
Wow, you must be just as illiterate,FMN. That must mean that you are human and no better than anyone else. Your attacks started with saying that he was better off dead. You are not GOD and you should not judge people as if you are filling in for him.
Gee, you said your site helps all battered victims of DV, but I guess you really just pick and choose the ones you want to help.
I knew Greg for Some Time and once were Roomates when he lived in Dallas,Tx and the first time i meet, at the time his fiance(ketra B.)i noticed she was VERY Dominant,as i Advised Greg at the Time,In which to me is a Possible Problem.It’s One Thing to be Equal but when a Woman is DOMINANT,that’s an Issue.Males are born to be Dominant,Not Woman.but in Today’s Time it Seems to be OK,When a Woman Hits a Man,but Turn that around and All of Sudden you’re a Criminal.Watch Tv and see for yourself.Tv is Making Woman “Think” it is OK to “TOUCH” a Man.If you look closely in the mugshot pic of Greg,you’ll see some Marks on his Face,but yet Only he went to Jail,Not Ketra,as Well.I Believe GREG was a Good Guy,Who Fell Victim,because he Loved Her and Maybe caught Ketra Cheating,as some have accused,it would Make sense.or Maybe He Took his Own Life ,cause he thought he could of Possibly Killed Her and did’nt want to go to Prison,Maybe then but What about the Children?So if the new boyfriend killed Him i would see a Motive or Setup,GReg Turner MAy You Rest in PEace and MAy the TRUTH come Out.RIP
Also,If Greg Wanted to Kill Her.Then She Would of Been DEAD.There’s More to it,like a Rage of Passion/Emotions.He Did’nt Want Her Dead,Why did he STOP,Untill he knew she was Dead,If that was the Case.Give the Guy a Chance.Look at the Other Possiblities,it’s Not Always as it Looks on the Surface.ASk yourself WHAT would you Do if you found out your Wife/husband was Cheating on you?Would you just Leave,Some do and Many Don’t.What If she Rubbed it in His Face?What if this was Setup,to put him in jail?This girl was Tough,She could of probably kicked many guys butts,from when i meet her.I’m just Trying to Make ense of this Tragedy,for a Long Lost friend Greg,We will find the Truth.There are Two Sides to Every Story.Also i’m Not saying ketra,is Not the Victim here,but after reading some comments about possibly Cheating on him,Makes Other Motives come out into Play.R.i.P Gregory Scott Turner
Well if he was Murdered,then we know what kind of People Ketra,is Friends with,won’t we.
MURDER will not change the facts the only thing it will
do is ADD another violent person who couldn’t control
their rage to the story.
Are we missing the point here? VIOLENCE.
A man is dead whether he took his own life or someone
else did… Greg is gone because of violence that began
In his home. Regardless of who started it or why
Or how it began or what it is was about…it was violence
And it either ended with the violent act of suicide which
is the most violent act a person can commit, the
Murder of ones self or it ended in murder the most
Violent act one can commit against another human being
Its about the VIOLENCE.
BARBARA…..I AGREE WITH YOU HERE…..GREG HAS DIED BECAUSE OF ANOTHER PERSONS RAGE AND ANGER COULDNT BE CONTROLLED. AS WAS GREGS INCIDENT WITH KETRA….NO DOUBT…..
BUT THATS WHAT THIS ARTICLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON….NOT JUST OUTRIGHT DISRESPECTING SOMEONE. NO MATTER WHAT THE SITUATION MAYBE NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE……NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE ANOTHER PERSONS LIFE. WHICH THE POINT IS TRYING TO BE MADE THAT GREG DID NOT KILL KETRA SO THEREFORE HE SHOULD NOT HAVE DIED….HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS YES, BUT NOT KILLED….
AND THATS THE WHOLE POINT WE ARE ALL TRYING TO MAKE HERE. THE FOCUS WAS ON THE WRONG SUBJECT AND WAS WORDED VERY WRONG……..
Stacy
i so feel your pain it’s real it”s agonizing…but i feel your setting yourself up for more heartache because it continues to look as if Greg did committ suicide and i am not sure you”ll accept that even when proven, I think many of you will never find closure because you will continue to believe murder and spend your life being angry at fictious persons.
This is a tradegy ….it is the consequences of violence..and No one deserves to die by way of violence.No one should know that terror. No one as you say has the right to take or attempt to take anothers persons life.
and while Greg did thankful not take Ketras life he did attempt to do so and he atempted to do so while his daughters watched and he will not be held accountable in the courts for that. It sadly appears that Greg held himself accountable therefore the blog was he didn”t kill her but he kills himself that was the correct subject at the time and was worded correctly.
if it turns out that Greg was murdered then the facts are still the same except as i said another violent person s added to an already violent reality
again please seek counseling
In the END,The Children will Remember,Christmas as to when they Lost their Father.R.I.P Greg.you will be Remembered.
Carlos – you have written a few times now and you are great with maybe’s. How would you like if I wrote a bunch of Maybe scenarios?
In the end Maybe the children will remember its Christmas as the one when Daddy stopped hurting mommy!
Or MAYBE they will remember that their mommy wont be able to threaten theor daddy to take them away from him.
it sure is funny how yall havent posted the updates on this case? since my cousin was murdered why arent posting about the domestic violence towards him? of course yall arent; why would you want to post something that makes yall look like the dumb asses yall are? like i have said before, you have no right to judge my cousin or my family! & yall can say whatever you feel like saying; but ONCE AGAIN, it sure is strange that your not fixing your mistakes; i dont blame you though; you already made yourself look stupid enough by saying my cousin deserves to be dead; why make yourself look worse by posting the truth? like me & my family has said before; we will NOT stop til we find out who did this; & each comment you keep running your mouth we are another step closer! WE LOVE YOU GREG!!!
Astrid, when you get an update from the law – send me the links- I have told you time and time again that I will post any links that the police have as to his demise. Just send them!
That does not change what he did but if it changes what happened to him- then we will update what happened to him.
Send proof Astrid not inuendo.
Funny how you all want me to write inuendo about Ketra but not what the cops wrote about Greg!
NOBODY WANTS YOU TO POST ANY INUENDOS ABOUT ANYONE………….WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT THING TO DO WAS REPOST A BLOG WITHOUT NAMES TO USE FOR A REFERENCE AS AN INCIDENT INSTEAD OF POSTING SHIT AND NOT DOING ALL THE RESEARCH ON THE PEOPLE YOU ARE WRITTING ABOUT…..
Cops are crooked just like you, “FUNNY” how loud mouth bitches like you are so quick to judge!!!! there is nothing “FUNNY” when my mom cant stop crying, there is nothing “FUNNY” about my two BEAUTIFUL NIECES who cant stand their mom but cant wait to see their dad pick them up and now he cant do that at all because Ketra always tried to take my brothers kids from him. That is how she made him stay with her. do u think that is “FUNNY” BITCH SO IT WAS NOT TO BAD FOR HER (KETRA)!!!!!! TAKE THAT TO THE BANK SINCE YOU ARE SO QUIK TO JUDGE!!!!
If he didn’t kill himself, why did he tell a friend to take care of his daughters because he was going to kill himself. He thought he killed Ketra and felt he had no other alternative.
WHERE DOES IT SAY HE TOLD A FRIEND TO TAKE CARE OF HIS KIDS??????????
YEAH HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE KILLED HIMSELF IF HE THOUGHT KETRA WAS DEAD HER AND THE GIRLS WERE HIS WORLD HE WOULDNT BE ABLE TO LIVE WITHOUT THEM……
BUT HE DIDNT KILL HIMSELF….SO LETS GO WITH THE NEXT THEORY ALREADY…..
BETTER YET STOP TALKIN ALL THE COULDA SHOULDA WOULDAS ABOUT THIS CASE IF IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOU…
MOVE ON TO ANOTHER FAMILY TO “SAVE” SINCE YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT CARE FOR THIS ONE…..
“Amanda”
This is gregs sister; i have been battered and beaten for 15 years by my husband so dont tell me i dont know what its like;
If you’re still being battered and beaten please seek professional counseling you’re not safe. You can contact BJ and we will find you the assistance you need. We certainly don’t want to post your story here as well do you understand that that every story we post breaks our hearts.
Here is the thing that concerns me the most, you admitted here you have been abused for 15 years
Has any of your family and friends reached out to you since you posted that here? Or has everyone ignored it?
Have they been ignoring your abuse for 15 years? If as you stated Ketra beat Greg then why the hell did you ignore that as well?
Please contact us NOW..you’re in danger.
Barbara,
I have heard from several folk about Greg’s sister – she is a battered woman- so much so she has neglected her own children and still she returns time and time again as soon as she heals.
She has had severe beatings and this is what her children have grown accustomer to.
I am going to venture a guess here that Greg and his sister grew up in a home of abuse- no doubt Greg dad was an abuser and their mothers was a ounching bag and not doubt these children will continue the family tradition.
I am in tears- the females will tolerate – alas expect it and the males will be expected to keep the bitches in line.
How can we possibly help those who believe they deserve no better? She won’t contact you – she has been doing this for 15 years – I have verified it!
She is so damaged- so beaten so demoralized – she may end up dead!
Pray for them Barbara- the mass card should have been for the females in this family- God help these poor women!
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Carlos
“Also,If Greg Wanted to Kill Her. Then She Would of Been DEAD.There’s More to it,like a Rage of Passion/Emotions.He Did’nt Want Her Dead,Why did he STOP,Untill he knew she was Dead,If that was the Case.Give the Guy a Chance.Look at the Other Possiblities,it’s Not Always as it Looks on the Surface”
Not sure where to begin…Greg did “stop” and he fled because he believed he did kill her and he may have killed himself because he believed he did kill her.
As far as your “Rage of Passion/ emotions”
theory..are you justifying a beating but not a death? Because it sure sounds like it. There are absolutely NO reasons to hit another human being. The well adjusted person controls their Rage.
It seems mens PASSION for women has killed more women than their HATRED for women.
The He loved her so much he beat/ killed her defense is comparative to the parent who puts a child’s hands on a hot shove and defends their actions with “I am doing this because I love you and this hurts me more than it hurts you” that’s BS and that’s abuse and that’s a crime. PERIOD.
and as far as “giving the guy a chance” here is the thing..if he remained in jail after the first incident..he would be alive. Which is why we are trying to stop the swinging doors that allow an abuser out while tempers are hot and without counseling for all involved.
Think about that Greg would be alive whether it was suicide or murder he would be alive.
So how about you join us to change the laws that would have prevented this tragedy use your rage for a constructive purpose in his name.
Carlos
“WHAT would you Do if you found out your Wife/husband was Cheating on you?Would you just Leave,Some do and Many Don’t.What If she Rubbed it in His Face?”
Crap Carlos Thousands of spouses find out a spouse is cheating a day…the well adjusted person does indeed walk away and the proof of that is there aren’t thousands of dead cheating spouses reported daily. Thank God for the large amount of well adjusted beings who comprehend that a cheating spouse is not the end of the world. You comprehend now what is the end of the world or at least I hope this assists you with that.
Your whole scenario of what IFs doesn’t justify the end results..a mother left for dead, children who watched and their father dead.
Having ones face “rubbed” in a affair
while painful is survivable.
This is typical. Everyone trying to side with whomever they think is write..and that’s usually the one not here anymore. If we’re all going to play the name game and how we’re related, I go back to before they even met each other. Yes, everyone does have their flaws, I understand that..but everyone else needs to understand he was not always peachy keen.
When they were first dating their relationship was VERY VIOLENT. MANY times she had to come stay with us because of it. When their first daughter was born she was not even sure he was going to be there. He did make it, and he started to show he was going to be a great dad.
When we visited them in CA in 09 I really had high hopes. He was who I knew on good days, super nice, friendly, etc. They came to our wedding reception, and it was the same. I was so excited for their little family.
But at the end of the day, she OR he, for that matter, could NEVER say anything for the other person to (almost) kill them. Anger is anger. Red hot. But it does NOT warrant getting your ass kicked. I’m pretty sure this is exactly what this blogger is shedding light on. I don’t care who cheated on who, who talked down to who, etc. It does not matter. Do people not get that and still hurt each other..of freaking course. But in a court of law, IT DOESNT MATTER!!! YOU DO NO BEAT EACH OTHER.
For you people coming on here disrespecting this person who wrote this blog, shame on you. If you really feel this way..WRITE YOUR OWN BLOG. If you feel like she is disrespecting him, do you think you’re making him proud by the words you’re saying?
All I’m trying to say is…NONE OF US KNOW all of it. Instead of speculating and pretending that we do, I wish we’d all just help Justis and Memorie get the Christmas and life they deserve.
When they were first dating their relationship was VERY VIOLENT. MANY times she had to come stay with us because of it. When their first daughter was born she was not even sure he was going to be there. He did make it, and he started to show he was going to be a great dad.
When we visited them in CA in 09 I really had high hopes. He was who I knew on good days, super nice, friendly, etc. They came to our wedding reception, and it was the same. I was so excited for their little family.
But at the end of the day, she OR he, for that matter, could NEVER say anything for the other person to (almost) kill them. Anger is anger. Red hot. But it does NOT warrant getting your ass kicked. I’m pretty sure this is exactly what this blogger is shedding light on. I don’t care who cheated on who, who talked down to who, etc. It does not matter. Do people not get that and still hurt each other..of freaking course. But in a court of law, IT DOESNT MATTER!!! YOU DO NO BEAT EACH OTHER.
For you people coming on here disrespecting this person who wrote this blog, shame on you. If you really feel this way..WRITE YOUR OWN BLOG. If you feel like she is disrespecting him, do you think you’re making him proud by the words youre saying?
All Im trying to say is…NONE OF US KNOW all of it. Instead of speculating and pretending that we do, I wish we’d all just help Justis and Memorie get the Christmas and life they deserve.
Cupcake- finally a voice of reason from one who knows this couple.
You are right – it is never right to raise a hand to another person- NEVER!
We now have another blog started to voice positive comments so that the girls will also find news that promotes non violence some day in the future.
Kinly post there too.
We fear that if the girls only find these biased blogs demeaning their mother – they will grow up believing women deserve to be beat and will accept it as their fate.
Girls need to look up to their mother – their father is gone now and the last time they saw him he was trying to kill their mother- and this blog says horrible things about her and suggests she deserved to be treated like that.
We need to counter balance that with another blog showing that there are better people out there and they shoould seek out a better life for themselves then the one they may be subjected to.
God help Justis and Memorie and what their paternal family is about to instill in them.
For positive messages and how women should be honored go to :
https://freemenow.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/friends-of-ketra-batiste-turner-please-step-forward-for-the-girls-sake/
WE ARE GOOD PEOPLE YOU JUDGE PEOPLE WE DONT WE ARE JUST DEFENDING SOMEONE YOU WONT LET REST IN PEACE SO FUCK OFF!!!!!!
MURDER will not change the facts the only thing it will
do is ADD another violent person who couldn’t control
their rage to the story.
Are we missing the point here? VIOLENCE.
A man is dead whether he took his own life or someone
else did… Greg is gone because of violence that began
In his home. Regardless of who started it or why
Or how it began or what it is was about…it was violence
And it either ended with the violent act of suicide which
is the most violent act a person can commit, the
Murder of ones self or it ended in murder the most
Violent act one can commit against another human being
Its about the VIOLENCE.
And I would think as a family instead of coming here
With threats of more violence “kicking asses” you would
as a family who lost Greg to violence sit down and recognize
the violence that continues to rear its ugly head.
Your Amanda has admitted here
that she has been beaten and battered for 15 years.
You come here with What if scenarios that are not based on any proof ” she may have told him this and she may have rubbed his face in it” all while ignoring the reality that HE did beat her in front of his children and he left her on the floor unconscious and his 7 year old called police that is not a scenario that is fact.
You justify those facts with more scenarios Greg was murdered and Ketra will be held responsible because it was her friends who murdered him.
(See Carlos comment)
Does it change the facts? That is was violence. Your threatening more violence in Gregs name offers proof you haven’t a clue and frankly these threats further prove that the police need to ensure Ketra and her daughters are taken far away from the violence being spewed here.
Carlos, you say you want the truth you have the truth its staring you right in the face..your friend was violent and the laws failed to protect Ketra and his daughters and Greg.
If after the first violent incident he remained in jail and ALL those involved had counseling before he was released the odds are the second incident never would of occurred.
The law did nothing to protect this family.
It failed miserably Ketra, the girls and yes Greg.
Why allow a person who was in a rage out of jail with no counseling? The 2nd charge was attempted murder and because of that he was admittedly suicidal how on Gods earth was it allowed to get to that point?
I will go along with your murder scenario to make a point..if he was murdered and the law did keep him in jail would it not have prevented a person who was also obviously in a rage from murdering him?
It’s violence and it’s the laws. Do you think you’re the only family dealing with inadequate laws that fail to protect families of violence?
Right now this reality is being played out
He will beat her in front of his children, he will go to jail, be released be even more angry, he will return and beat her but most likely he will kill her in front of his children..he will then go to prison and the children will have lost 2 parents forever traumatized that their father did this.. And many times he will commit suicide, rarely is he murdered..but again it is the children of violence who are the real true victims.
Should we not be doing more to protect families of violence? What will your family do when you come to the stage of acceptance? Will you join the fight to speak to family violence or will you continue to perpetrate it?
What a way to end this year!
This is a perfect example of what we are up against! A classic case of blaming the victim played out right in front of our eyes!
A classic example of cyberbullying by anyone who stands up against the real bully in hoes of wearing the messenger down.
A classic example of twisting the story to take the focus off the crime and spin it in another direction so that the criminal becomes a victim thereby forgetting the original crime.
A classic example of attacking and name calling and vitriol and rage and threatening while honoring the the thug.
I will not back down- Your continued attacks only consolidate my opinion that he came from a vicious family who lashes out at anyone and everyone violently. This does not make Greg look like a nice guy folks.
IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER HOW YOU VIEW GREG…YOU DID NOT GET THAT FORTUNATE CHANCE THAT WE ALL HAVE HAD TO MEET HIM AND BECOME PART OF HIS LIFE. YOU CAN SAY YOU ARE ALL ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BUT REALLY THIS IS YOUR WAY OF BELITTLING PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT HAPPY IN YOUR OWN LIFE. THERE ARE MORE THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR HOT BREATH AND FINGERS THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE IN NEED THAT WANT YOUR HELP. THIS ARTICLE DID NOT HELP ANYONE. IT JUST HELP PROMOTE MORE ANGER AND RAGE AND THE MORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT HOW BAD OF A MAN HE WAS INSTEAD OF HOW BAD OF A THING HE DID JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO HELP ANYONE BUT YOURSELF. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO TO GET THRU YOUR DAY INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH YOUR LIFE YOU MADE. IF YOU STOPED FOCUSING ON HIM PERSONALLY THEN YOU CAN FOCUS ON WHAT WENT WRONG HERE IN ORDER TO HELP PEOPLE NOT GET TO THAT POINT. YOU SHOULD BE PUSHING FOR STRICTER LAWS AND EASIER COUNCELING FOR PEOPLE. MORE AWARENESS AND NOT MORE HATRED…..
STOP JUDGING THE NEXT MAN AND START LOOKING IN THE MIRROR
Amanda.
My concern is for you. Please contact the National Hotline number
1800 799-SAFE
You can contact BJ at this site there are many women here who can help you.
Please PLease. LOVE does not HURT…EVER
Domestic violence and abuse are used for one purpose and one purpose only: to gain and maintain total control over you. An abuser doesn’t “play fair.” Abusers use fear, guilt, shame, and intimidation to wear you down and keep you under his or her thumb. Your abuser may also threaten you, hurt you, or hurt those around you.
Signs of an abusive relationship
There are many signs of an abusive relationship. The most telling sign is fear of your partner. If you feel like you have to walk on eggshells around your partner—constantly watching what you say and do in order to avoid a blow-up—chances are your relationship is unhealthy and abusive. Other signs that you may be in an abusive relationship include a partner who belittles you or tries to control you, and feelings of self-loathing, helplessness, and desperation.
To determine whether your relationship is abusive, answer the questions below. The more “yes” answers, the more likely it is that you’re in an abusive relationship.
SIGNS THAT YOU’RE IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP
Your Inner Thoughts and Feelings
Your Partner’s Belittling Behavior
Do you:
feel afraid of your partner much of the time?
avoid certain topics out of fear of angering your partner?
feel that you can’t do anything right for your partner?
believe that you deserve to be hurt or mistreated?
wonder if you’re the one who is crazy?
feel emotionally numb or helpless?
Does your partner:
humiliate or yell at you?
criticize you and put you down?
treat you so badly that you’re embarrassed for your friends or family to see?
ignore or put down your opinions or accomplishments?
blame you for his own abusive behavior?
see you as property or a sex object, rather than as a person?
Your Partner’s Violent Behavior or Threats
Your Partner’s Controlling Behavior
Does your partner:
have a bad and unpredictable temper?
hurt you, or threaten to hurt or kill you?
threaten to take your children away or harm them?
threaten to commit suicide if you leave?
force you to have sex?
destroy your belongings?
Does your partner:
act excessively jealous and possessive?
control where you go or what you do?
keep you from seeing your friends or family?
limit your access to money, the phone, or the car?
constantly check up on you?
The cycle of violence in domestic abuse
Domestic abuse falls into a common pattern, or cycle of violence:
Abuse – Your abusive partner lashes out with aggressive, belittling, or violent behavior. The abuse is a power play designed to show you “who is boss.”
Guilt – After abusing you, your partner feels guilt, but not over what he’s done. He’s more worried about the possibility of being caught and facing consequences for his abusive behavior.
Excuses – Your abuser rationalizes what he or she has done. The person may come up with a string of excuses or blame you for theabusive behavior—anything to avoid taking responsibility.
“Normal” behavior — The abuser does everything he can to regain control and keep the victim in the relationship. He may act as if nothing has happened, or he may turn on the charm. This peaceful honeymoon phase may give the victim hope that the abuser has really changed this time.
Fantasy and planning – Your abuser begins to fantasize about abusing you again. He spends a lot of time thinking about what you’ve done wrong and how he’ll make you pay. Then he makes a plan for turning the fantasy of abuse into reality.
Set-up – Your abuser sets you up and puts his plan in motion, creating a situation where he can justify abusing you.
Your abuser’s apologies and loving gestures in between the episodes of abuse can make it difficult to leave. He may make you believe that you are the only person who can help him, that things will be different this time, and that he truly loves you. However, the dangers of staying are very real. You don’t have to live in fear:
Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at:
1-800-799-7233
1800-799-SAFE
http://helpguide.org/mental/domestic_violence_abuse_types_signs_causes_effects.htm
I dont need a counselor i have been divorced for 1 year. You need one you need to quit belittling my brother you did and will not ever ever ever know who he really was. I remember when he would pick his girls up from my house and they would be exstatic just because their daddy was there and then you would see ketra come to pick them up and they hated going with her. So you tell me did he love his girls and did they love him HELL YES so shut up and you need god. My nieces LOVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD THEIR DADDY THEY LOVED THEIR DADDY THEY LOVED THEIR DADDY YOU GOT THAT THEY LOVED HIM AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT HE WENT THROUGH JUST SO SHE WOULD NOT TAKE THEM FROM HIM SO GO COUNSEL THAT BBBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTCCCCCCHHHHHH!
YA GO COUNCEL THAT YOU BITCH
Thank you Barbara!
How do you look at yourself the bible says judge no one that does not mean you are an exception. You are nothing but a fat cow with fast fingers and you do not and will not belittle my brother anymore and if you dont change your headline i will SUE YOUR ASS FOR FALSIFYING AND SLANDERING HIS NAME> TRY ME BITCH!!!!!!
Oh and by the way that is anoth falsified Line in your article!!!! KEtra BATISTE HAD A COURT DATE THIS LAST MONDAY TO GET THEIR KIDS BACK AND SHE DID NOT DID NOT DID NOT DID NOT DID NOT DID NOT GET THEM BACK!!!!!! BUT SHE IS A GREAT MOM LOLOLOLOLOLOL NOW SHUT UP AND KNOW THE FACTS YOU LOUD MOUTH….. BET BET BET BET BET BET BET THAT SHE WAS THE MURDERER OF MY BROTHER AND IF SHE WAS I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEE HER ASS IN JAIL……. AND YOUR NEXT IF YOU DONT GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!!!!
MY BROTHER WAS LET GO BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE HE WAS FOUND INNOCENT YES YES YES INNOCENT OF HITTING HIS WIFE SHE WAS THE ONE THAT HIT HIM REPEATEDLY SO SAY WHAT YOU WANT BUT YOU HEARD ME CHANGE YOUR HEADLINE……… And get all your line in order or you will have a law suit
Amanda,
I have never belittled your brother Greg nor you or any member of your family. I have not cursed, threatened or accused anyone on the blog.
I am sure your nieces loved their father and he them the sad fact is that he attempted to murder their mother in front of them. The heartbreak of the damage from domestic violence is the children. I will continue to speak to the heartbreak of DV and encourage counseling just in case a woman who is in this situation is reading this blog. I will continue to pray for both the girls as well as Ketra and the Turner family.
My concern for you Amanda is because I am a women who fully comprehends the physical and the emotional damage caused by DV. I am a domestic violence volunteer. I see you everyday. You break my heart everyday.
You’re a woman who admitted to being “battered and bruised” for 15 years I offered you assistance and that offer still stands. The anger you display here is typical of a woman who has lived in fear..anger and rage are emotional reactions to fear. You have been terrorized for 15 years and while I am glad you have removed yourself from your abuser counseling will help you deal with what has been a traumatic ordeal.
I pray you find the Peace that God intended your life to be.
I wish you and yours blessings on your journey,
Barbara
Barbara,
From what I learned her – she did not remove herself- her husband left her.
Also what else I have learned this family beginning with their mother is rife with abuse of their females and they including the women and girls believe that women deserve and should accept this treatment.
We can’t fix what they don’t think is broken. My concern at this time is for the safety of Ketra and the girls!
I understand her life is more in danger now than before. These people blame her and a few are even accusing her of his murder.
I have done research and to date there is no murder investigation. I think it is best if we close this piece – no good can come from accepting more rage.
Let’s move on to finding more help for Ketra and the girls- they will need it – hopefully we have enough evidence that they are not loved or respected and certainly are not safe on theTurner side.
I have received some mail indicating as much.
Let’s move on to finding support for Ketra. I am told she now knows what the turner side has written about her here and on other sites as well.
Let’s hope she uses the information to keep safe!
Once again you missed the point FMN. YOU started the whole ordeal when you made your first remark about Greg. Sticking only to the facts is what you should have done but you had to bash him to make a point. Anyone who can read can see what the facts that were reported at the time. Time and time again people asked you to stop but yet you continued. How did this help? It helped YOU in succeeding to exploit the siuation for your own greediness, FOR SHAME….The ethical thing to have done was to leave all their names out and only report on the terrible thing that happened. People would have been alot more understanding to your cause. You say you help ALL those suffering from DV ,but it seems that it always leans to misogyny. You know, misandry happens too. I am sure we all will be following up on this story. It has affected a great many people. You posted this story on your blog to shed light on DV. YOU wanted someone to respond and you got it. All 260 of them including your own….and still counting. Looks can be deceiving and a picture is worth a thousand words. Whatever happened between them is so sad and why it had to end this way is absolutely horrifying. It will forever change Ketra. It will forever change their daughters….and it will forever change us all……..
I pray that God wraps his arms around all who have been affected by this and provides them comfort beyond all understanding during this most difficult time.
And yet another reader,
Did you write to all the newspapers and ask them to remove his name?
Shall I list all the reports starting on the 15- 20th where they show his picture and list his name along with all the facts that I reported and I quoted directly from the newspaper and shall I again- give the links to the police report pdf?
All of this is a matter of public record. I did not make up the information- it is all there. The tenor and language and sordid facts related to the disposition of the family comes directly from the family and friends themselves of their own accord.
Thier demeanor was unfortunate and will be affectly Kentra and those children in the future- I wonder if you have spoken to them about the way they have behaved and the filth they have spread not just here but all over the web about this mother of his two children.
Shall I send you links to all the newspaper site where they immediately went before they came to me and defamed her character without regard for her children or family?
I will not recind one word here because it is very important to document what she and the children are and were up against- the hatred and the vitriol hurled against her. She is even accused of his murder – or having a lover kill him.
And you have the audacity to come after me? If you cannot use what appears at first reading to be common sense to assit Ketra and the children then by all means do not enable this Turner family to continue to rage against her by trying to shut me up– I will not back down – certainly not once I read that they were out attacking the victim before they ever found out Greg was dead in the first place.
Stop enabling the Turner family at Ketra and the Girls expence- I am not exploiting anyone — I have nothing personal to gain however- I will stand strong and prove what bullying looks like.
I am proving:
What a battered woman has to contend with – just how bad it can and will get – just how many will come at her and just what lengths they will go.
In fact- I will post a list of all the tactics employed against victims to prove where Greg left off you and others are picking right up.
SHAME ON YOU!
I was going to shut this particular piece down – you alone have now turned this into my pet project for 2011. You have now made it personal for me- you have dragged me into it by joining the attack on me- You and that stomach turner family may have abused Ketra – but you will not abuse me.
BUT- on this we agree:
” It will forever change Ketra. It will forever change their daughters….and it will forever change us all……..
I pray that God wraps his arms around all who have been affected by this and provides them comfort beyond all understanding during this most difficult time”
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Barbara,
I am on a mission. Ever since I found out that these creetons were after Ketra I warned them to cease and desist for the sake of the girls.
They have refused.
Therefore It is incumbent upon myself and others to be sure when the girls do a search sometime in the future- they are made fully aware of certain facts;
The Turner family are a typical dysfunctional family of abusive, illiterate violent misfits who purposefully attacked Ketra in order to circumvent the truth about their family.
They have no regard for his daughters whatsoever, so we will have to. The turners along with his friends are dissolving the credibility of the only parent left thereby shaking their very foundation. Not uncommon in cases where the entire family and their associates are all birds of a feather.
I hope this ends up being a case study for other women who have children and for women withoout children who see red flags!
STRAIGHT BULLSHIT……THIS BITCH NEEDS TO BE PROSECUTED FOR SLANDERING….SHE CONTINUES TO SLANDER PEOPLES NAMES WHOM SHE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT.
YOU SEE EVERYONE IS TRYING TO DEFEND GREG AND BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION NOBODY IS STEPPING FORTH TO DEFEND KETRA…..SO THERE OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING MORE TO THIS STORY THEN YOU KNOW RIGHT?
STICK TO THE FACTS…..
STOP TALKIN SHIT ABOUT PEOPLE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT……
GROW THE FUCK UP AND GET A REAL LIFE…..
GO SPEND TIME WITH YOUR DAUGHTER…SHE NEEDS YOU MORE THEN THIS BLOG SITE NEEDS YOU……
THIS WAS A POST I FOUND ON YET ANOTHER BLOG THAT THIS BITCH FREEMENOW HAS GOING ON THIS STORY…..
THIS BITCH JUST DONT KNOW WHEN TO SHUT THE FUCK UP….
REAL TALK…….
STEADY TALKING SHIT ABOUT PEOPLE….
BUT SHES TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE…
YA RIGHT….
oh now these bitches finally shut up……dont worry lawsuits are in full effect!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, get over it. Its her blog..shes stating her opinion and posting LINKS from other sites. You’re no closely related and you’re riding the fence. Get off and take some of the advice you’ve given the author of this blog. If someone (seriously) counsulted counsel….they’re ridiculous and wasting money.. Its an ONLINE BLOG, people. If you don’t agree..WRITE YOUR OWN.
and PS.
Its hard for people to take you seriously with all that language.
Stacy,
Nope we will never shut up about ABUSE and ATTEMPTED MURDER!
Have a lovely New Year wallowing in your self made bath of abuse and hatred.
My New Year will be spectaular and filled with love and joy, as I actively help people fighting abuse.
We’ve made our point that domestic violence and those who ignore it, accept it and defend it as all of you who showed up to comment here did are a plague on society.
We’ve moved on that’s all…Lots to cover here on the topic of violence against women, which you and the other Turner women have perpetrated on this blog by writing the vile threatening filth that you all spewed here.
Ironically it will benefit Ketra as there is no court that will allow the Turner family anywhere near Ketra and her two daughters after reading your threats posted her.
So another purpose on this blog has been served and that is to ensure that daughters are raised in healthy, nurturing, environments to grow up believing they are entitled to be safe and protected from those who profess to love them.
You see daughters who witness abuse grow up to be mothers who believe it’s normal to be abused. The cycle continues, the plague reinforces that dysfunctional belief.
Hopefully these girls will grow up and comprehend what this message to them is NO women should be threatened with harm( as their father did in their presence and as you all did here) let alone be strangled and left for dead ( as their father did and you defend) Violence against women is a plague and our goal is to rid the world of it starting with education and each and every person that posted here contributed to the goal.
I continue to pray for you all.
I’ve read through all these flingings and foul assaults on sensitivities. Imagine growing up in a home where such over-the-top outbursts masquerade as conversation! Without having to read the words, I feel the din of clashing wills. My experience has taught me that anybody who claims they “snapped” after taking it for extended time could, if they really controlled themselves for so long, could have “snapped back” just as readily, pulled themselves together and returned to being the restrained, responsible parent/spouse they chose from the beginning to be. Patterns of over-reaction, obsessive determination to repeatedly make the same point using the same words that failed repeatedly are something the participants cannot see themselves doing. In a dysfunctional community where nobody simply says: “I hear you. Let me paraphrase what you are saying. Is this what you mean for me to get from your statement?” And if I had to paraphrase the sentiment that I should know everything about some news item before I could reflect on it FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND POINT OF VIEW, then it would really be a waste of time to read anything with the idea that I might develop a mature world view with an enthusiasm for getting to know people better without having to personally KNOW them. We know people. People are the same everywhere. In Social Studies, because all human beings are unique, we cannot assume everybody is the same. But deep down, we are all the same, and all possess the potential to be gently loving and nurturing. Until we grasp the power of the divinity within, the seed of light that is the reflection of god in us, we just watch people. And sometimes, because we tend to look for positive, upbeat people, we get that shock of reading a blog like this with a biorhythm of waving, criss-crossing, dynamic people. Well done all. If I wanted to produce an industrial instruction on how people hurt each other with free-for-all savagery and then talk about praying, I’d just copy this. Manic depressive, bi-polars off their meds “snap.” Healthy, straight, sober, gentle people who look out for each other find a better way and put that crazy stuff behind them in the interest of mutually respectful existence. When I feel like this, and I do, every day, I pray to Blessed Mother Mary who promised to bless and help all who appeal to her for help. Then I ask Saint Anthony to help me find the better way, a way that lets both me and my adversary look good. And St. Tony delivers. try it.
This is definately the mother of all posts! It is a case study in of itself!
Sorry to hear about what happen. I don’t know the family, but I know Greg and from what I know of him he was a great man and father. He got my son and his friend their first jobs.
I just want to say also that none of us know what was goin on behind closed doors so to pass or make a judgement on somethin that we don’t know or that we hear or see on the news or read in a paper is crazy.
My kids and I are in shock behind this and I pray that the girls will be ok I pray the truth comes out about what happen between Greg and his wife.
I am in shock that all you care about is what this man did for you and your sons and that is all you need to know – you decide he is a great man !
Then you end by saying you don’t know what went on behind closed door and you hope the truth comes out.
Well here is the truth- your great man strangeled his wife and left her unconcious on the floor with two babies alone in the house! That is the one truth you can hang your Cansitittas on!
So glad the strangler go your sons a job- lets hope they don’t look up to him as much as their mother does and emulate his greatness or you too may be weeping over a murerous son.
What is it that you people don’t get? What the hell is wrong with you people what are you all on?
THIS MAN TRIED TO KILL HIS WIFE – HE LEFT HER FOR DEAD- HE WAS NOT A GREAT MAN- HE WAS A BRUTAL KILLER!
Ketra is one of the strongest and most amazing women I have ever met. She will succeed despite all of this, and those little girls will turn out amazing and strong too.
Thank you – I was beginning to think no one was going to come to this woman’s defense.
I also have a blog piece set up just for her and her friends – Please if you would – leave this message there and perhaps encourage others to do os.
Ketra has been beat up by his family and friends so badly and now that Greg is dead – she need emotional support- that is what my blog is trying to offere but I need help from her friends.
Please – if you can help in any way – God Bless you. She and for the girl’s sake . In the future they need to find positive things online to combat the negatives his family is spreading. Please help.
Again Thank you.
You will remain anonymous.
I’m not sure where you are getting your information, however great topic. I must spend some time studying more or figuring out more. Thanks for wonderful info I used to be in search of this information for my mission.
This stupid bitch is a whore. I wouldnt doubt that she instigated it somehow. yes nobody deserves to get beat. However this stupid slut had the audacity to come into my relationship and destroy my family in return bringing drugs and all sorts of bad stuff around my neice and nephew and destroying my realtionship which is now destroying my ex and his sons relationship. I will no longer allow my ex to see my son because this homewrecking bitch,