Blackout: Is abortion ever murder to a LIBERAL?

Barbara Bassett

Kermit Gosnell is an abortionist on trail for murder and the liberal media can’t figure out how to write the word abortionist and murderer in the same sentence. They can’t figure out how to describe hundreds of infant body parts in jars, bodies in garbage bags,in freezers when they’ve spent so much time describing them as “blobs” and “masses of cells”. They can’t justify the horrific photos of infanticide by equating them to their feel good mantra of “its all about a women’s reproductive rights”. Because maybe you would question how exactly do all those bloody scenes that included the deaths, forced sterilzation and infections of women actually relate to a women’s reproductive rights.
They can’t post a photo of a born alive infant and write a obituary that says died from having his doctor make the “choice” to cut his spinal cord.
They can’t figure out how to explain why it was scissors  that murdered a 8 month “screaming” fully viable infant when lawmakers are demanding laws to protect “our children” from being murdered by guns. They can’t explain why 5 year olds murdered in school are “our most precious assets” yet a 8 month born alive murdered on a mad mans butchering table isn’t worth a damn.
They can’t figure out how to explain Gosnells comments “that this baby could walk to the bus stop” during a “snipping” procedure that is defined as “a women’s right” and not a survivors right to medical care because if you asked why no medical care for an infant born alive during an abortion
they would then have to explain Obama voted against the born alive infant protection act calling it “a burden on a mother” and they can’t do that because then you would know he did indeed do that and his mantra of saving “just one child” would be called hypocritical. They can’t explain why these minority low income murders haven’t warranted “if I had a son he would look like.. the hundreds of photos in evidence.
They can’t explain why nail salons are regulated but abortion clinics aren’t because then they’d have to explain to you that regulating  abortion clinics is refered to as “a war on womens reproductive rights” the Left uses regulation as a weapon and the Right fears their weapon.
Women’s rights groups are blacking out the  Gosnell story also because they can’t explain how  they will fight for womens right to birth control and to abortion but not for a womens right to be educated on both nor a womens right to have an abortion in a regulated facility just like a hospital as a women who chooses to deliver her baby does.
Since its all about womens rights why aren’t they speaking about her right to be protected from the monsters who prey on her vulnerability. These Women they profess to fight for are being abused.
What happened to the mantra of “legal, safe and rare”?
Some of those who have come forward were 15 years old. One describes 8 abortions and being told that was “normal” she is now in her twenties and can’t conceive. These young girls are our children and why are strangers in a “reputable” clinic advising our children on abortion without our knowledge. Ask Planned ParentHood and liberals who lobbied against parental notification. Where’s the outrage that a 15 year old girl was drugged and tied to a bed because she Changed her mind? She’s also sterile and dreams about the baby she saw born and murdered.
You’ve come along way Baby.
As I write the left women blame the right and grasp at the fear factor..shocking is there is not one mention of the horrors, plenty of “this is what happens when women are forced into back alleys by the right. Not shocking is that they would ignore the facts..this was an 20 year established legal 1.3 million dollar womens “health” clinic, Gosnells fees were as high as 1,600 hardly a “back alley’ abortion clinic and most of his patients were black low income women, white women had a seperate room as “they were most likely to report” says Gosnell.
So were are the minority leaders on the left? Trayvon Martins death warranted Sharpton, Jackson and every liberal I know to march in protest. The media coverage was non stop yet hundreds of mutilated black babies in the garbage..crickets.
And the right runs away in fear of the explosive racial keg that is.. abortion.
The silence is deafening but if they explain you get to ask questions. You get to ask WTH is a partial birth abortions? And then you would be horrified to know and even more horrified to know your taxpayer dollars fund the likes of Gosnells house of horrors.
.. and maybe the truth is many of you don’t want it explained but I believe the blackout is directed at the majority of you who are unaware of what “late term and partial birth abortions” mean The Gosnell story opens the floodgates in very graphic details, horrifying images and they all know that a story about a puppy found in a garbage bag generates outrage and they know if you knew hundreds of viable babies were found in garbage bags that would generate outrage and that outrage would force a conversation about abortions and conversations about abortions would open the flood gates
to what we are capable of and what we are capable of is  horrifying and horrifying would bring about changes to a BIllION dollar industry and effect the politicans who depend upon the millions of abortion issue voters, a political party that depends upon “the  war on women”, the hundreds of women’s groups that rely on “reproductive rights” to divide women, minority leaders who divide and profit
Because in the end its not about the women or infanticide its about politics and money and votes and GREED.
Its best you’re  kept in the dark.
But some of us are shedding light on Gosnell and we are tweeting, facebooking,  blogging so this horror opens a dialogue to who decides that a football players imaginary girlfriend is news and Gosnells House of Horrors is not and more importantly it must Open a dialogue to what is morally unacceptable.
Everyone of us no matter where you stand on the issue should be outraged for so many reasons.
Barbara

Women settle for crumbs at the liberals table as Democrats continue war against women.

BettyJean Downing

VAWA watered down as part of the war against women, Democrats set the table and Republicans drink the kool-ade!
100 Years Ago, women took to the streets and demanded the right to vote. What will you fight for this year? We the women of the free world are the majority, and yet not only are we not covered under the Constitution of the United States, but we ostensibly need a Violence Against Women Act to protect us. Yet with the new act, we are forced to share what little funds we have with Gay men and non-citizens, as well as with any other peoples our government can find to share the already paltry sum amongst!

Still hanging after all these years? Free us now! ERA to free women - we are the niggers of the world!

Still hanging after all these years? Free us now! ERA to free women – we are the niggers of the world!

How disgusting that we, the women of the greatest country on earth, need an act specifically created to address the violence directed against us in the first place. But now, to have to share it with others totally negates the reason we fought for specific protection in the first place.
Is there nothing our government holds sacred for the female majority of the population? Are there not hate crimes in effect for gays? Are there no other recourse acts to be drafted for others in need that we women, who die at the rate of 4 a day, need to share our pitiful sum, stretch our already overtaxed resources to the breaking point, when not even a dent has been made all these years in lowering the staggering numbers of women who suffer and even die from gender related violence?
What was wrong with the Violence Against Women Act before the Democrats decided to alter it and force the Republicans to sign on or risk being held responsible for denying women protection? Once again, women are being used as pawns. And once again, we settle for crumbs at the Liberal table!
Where oh where were the women while this travesty against women was going on? How many of our own daughters must be slain, battered, and raped before we realize that we have once again laid down for the man and his political machine rather than for our own benefit?
CRY for the women who are dying so that the Liberal can continue to allow havoc to be wreaked upon women and blame it on a war coming from someplace else, when it actually comes straight from the liberal table set by the Democrats and their molls!
Shame on the conservative men and women who refused to step up and fight for all women—who refuse to expose this travesty for what it is. Shame on all those who repeatedly sell out women in the name of government!
Give us an Equal Rights Amendment. Free Us Now!

An Open Letter to: Eve Ensler

BettyJean Downing

Eve Ensler: ONE BILLION RISING, 2/14/13 V-Day’s most ambitious campaign yet

Eve,
I absolutely spread the word far and wide and made sure all my contacts did the same. I am writing to share how shocked I was that in all my years advocating for women and working in the filed  fighting violence against women – that this is the first time I have heard about ONE BILLION RISING! What a fantastic idea- thank you and please help me and other groups understand how to help make sure every woman and girl is aware of it in time to participate in ONE BILLION RISING 2014.

I am concerned that all women’s groups are not united and therefore our rally cries are not loud enough and powerful enough to shake the foundations of power against us. What can we do to enlist other women’s groups to engage in each other’s causes, to encourage all women to participate in every movement out there that empowers women? What can we do together to show the powers that be we really are a power to be reckoned with? As a whole, women do not present a united front; instead we are the women against violence, mothers against drunks, LGBT, Pro Life, Pro Choice, Anti War etc. etc. When will we just be the majority that we are? When will we again present ourselves as the WOMEN of America

You are absolutely right 33% of us will be beaten or raped, 4 a day in this country are murdered at the hands of a loved one who had beaten them before and was released to kill. About 50 % of us are adamantly against the other 50% politically, which mockingly keeps us politically weakened and unable to hold positions of power at home, on the job or in politics. An even larger percent ( I estimate upwards of 85%) of us is powerless financially because we are not united enough to grab and hold the power to self govern.

We stand at the point of sink or swim, we rally for particular issues and it’s like missing the forest for the trees. We are woman- we are the majority. The violence stops when we have our rights and full power. We won’t have that till we stop fighting amongst ourselves over the issues that were manufactured to keep us divided and fighting amongst ourselves. That old “a house divided against itself cannot stand” is true. Let history teach us and others that united we can overcome. We women are equal and can stand ready to lead and rule our own lives. Let’s demand respect, full equality, an end to violence can only come when we are united as the majority, powerful and voting as one block demanding full rights to self govern. Let the issues remain issues to be dealt with when we are in the position to govern but lets first get in the position to self govern.

Women’s History Month begins on Friday, March 1, 2013 (in 8 days) and ends on Sunday, March 31, 2013. 

Let’s demand a slot every day in honor of women’s history!

BettyJean
Thank you for joining ONE BILLION RISING, V-Day’s most ambitious campaign yet. 

When we started V-Day 14 years ago, we had the outrageous idea that we could end violence against women. Since then, hundreds of thousands of V-Day activists in audiences and on stages in over 140 countries have come together to demand an end to violence against women and girls. The funds we’ve raised together have kept organizations’ doors open, and the issue front and center in local media. 

But still today, the United Nations states that 1 in 3 women on the planet will be beaten or raped during her lifetime that’s more than one billion women and girls alive today. 

V-Day wants the world to see our collective strength, showing them exactly what one billion looks like. 

ONE BILLION RISING is a promise that on February 14th, 2013, we will ensure that millions of women and men rise up around the world to say, “ENOUGH. The violence ends NOW.” 

BettyJean, there is so much more to come. But for right now, you can help us launch ONE BILLION RISING with a few simple actions:
Share ONE BILLION RISING with your networks
Sign up for our text message updates in the US by texting BILLION to 50555
Follow V-Day on Facebook and Twitter

ONE BILLION RISING will make the earth move by uniting us through dance across every country.

BettyJean, I look forward to dancing, striking and rising to end violence against women and girls together with you.

In solidarity,

Eve Ensler

NOW: Major Force Behind War on Women

BettyJean Downing-Kling

Is my tax dollar paying this scumb bag to teach our kids?

Are your tax dollars paying this scumb bag to teach our kids?

Terry O’Neil, NOW’s stunningly deafening silence, if continued, will result in the preventable deaths of women. Your failure to call out your cronies when they sexualize women gives them your seal of approval and our expressions of disgust. The major force behind the war on women is the women who will not stand up for other women!

While NOW and other liberal women’s groups are spending 98% of their time raging against anti-abortion public funding that may impact *28% women aged 15-64, that is 100% of the time they spend ignoring the problems that beset every woman all of the time.

For example: Nearly 5 women die each day at the hands of their intimate partners, 8 Million more are beaten and raped by their lovers. A woman is raped every 6 seconds in the USA.

It is estimated here that, as of 2008, about 28% of U.S. women ages 15-64 have had abortions. This figure has risen from 2.8% in 1973 to 11% in 1980, 19% in 1987, 24% in 1994, and 27% in 2001. http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/uslifetimeab.html

NOW’s statistics are a half decade out of date and remarkably low compared to the facts I have quoted. http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html

**In 2005, 1,181 women were murdered by an intimate partner. That’s an average of three women every day. Of all the women murdered in the U.S., about one-third were killed by an intimate partner.

2005, women experience about 4.8 million intimate partner-related physical assaults and rapes every year.

More than 600 women every day in the U.S. were raped or sexually assaulted in 2006.

NOW sends out newsletter every week to beguile women about abortion and the need to hold on to the right to their own body. NOW influences women to believe this is the most liberating and fundamental issue of womanhood. Apparently rape is not a problem – you can abort the blob of cells after all.

They will alert readers of every jot and title about each lawmaker and every fart they lay. They know every piece of legislation that might take a tax penny from abortion but they can’t update the information on the real crisis – the pandemic that threatens the lives of 5 women a day here in the US or the torture of 96 a day who are battered, or the millions of women losing their children at the hands of Family Courts who are at war with women and mothers, or with sexism and misogyny rampant within the media and the Liberals and especially the Democrats.

To hell with NOW — your stunningly dangerous efforts to promote abortion to the detriment of all other issues and including all women from all ideologies are resulting in the preventable deaths, battering, torture, degradation, slavery and sex trafficking of millions of American women and children. Count up the percentage of time you spend on abortion compared to that you spend on the real problems 90% of women face 100 % of the time. Come out from you quarter million dollar paycheck, and start giving real time to real women and real needs. You admitted it yourself- “A recent poll shows abortion ‘barely registers’ among voter priorities” so why is abortion your top priority? Is that how you keep moderates and conservatives out, or how to hold on to your dwindling base?

For Immediate Release
Contact: Mai Shiozaki, 202-628-8669, ext. 116

U.S. Catholic Bishops Major Force Behind War on Women
Statement of NOW President Terry O’Neill

February 23, 2011

The collusion of House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has led to an open declaration of war on the women of this country. The bishops have long sought to enshrine into law those policies of the Catholic Church that subordinate women. And they don’t care how badly women get hurt in the process.

In the last election, the bishops helped to elect legislators that would do their bidding, which includes enacting dangerous and discriminatory bills denying women safe, accessible and affordable abortion care and family planning, even encouraging hospitals to let women die in the name of ‘life.’

A recent poll shows abortion ‘barely registers’ among voter priorities, and yet Speaker Boehner has declared barring federal funding for abortion care a ‘highest priority’ — responding not to the call of his constituents but to the demands of the bishops. And it turns out abortion isn’t the only target, as evidenced by their stunningly dangerous efforts that, if enacted, can and will result in the preventable deaths of women:

Radical women stole the words feminist and choice

Another Rant By: BettyJean Kling

Dear Sisters,

If you are familiar with me and my group- you know that I was all over this country fighting for Hillary because I believed she was the very best candidate from either side running for office in 2008. I was devastated that her party sold her out but not surprised, I was disgusted that the women of her party tolerated it and like battered wives voted her abusers into office as a reward for their deplorable behavior.

I believed in her and as an Independent I believe in no party for party sake but I put country and womankind first. I never hid that from anyone. I have been a FEMINIST from birth – and I will not accept that a FEMINIST walks lockstep with any ideology set up by radical women from either side. I know I am equal to every other human being and worthy of justice and respect and I have demanded it from birth and have fought to free myself and my sisters from the second class status our brothers  have forced us to submit to in and out of the religious and political sectors.

As the majority of the population, women have succumbed to the tyranny of either the church or political rule rather than rise above either and stand shoulder to shoulder and take our rightful place in society. Foolishly they have been brainwashed into believing there is an either or choice. I have never thought choosing between column A and column B was an adequate alternative for me Pro-Life or Pro-Choice. Pro-Choice is a misnomer, I used to say I was Pro-choice before I realized it meant I had no choice but abortion. The liberals who stole the word feminist along with the word choice have one hell of a nerve refusing ¾ of the world’s women use of language rightfully theirs. As an Independent, I know the truth, but I have coined a new phrase for the preferable option and it is “Freedom of Choice”.

The right cannot fathom relinquishing their “feminine” roles, aborting their children, becoming lesbians and hating a man which is what radical women have successfully turned the women’s movement into. Thanks to the voices in the Left wing crowd who will be sure to bring abortion, gay rights and man hating to the fore to make sure they drive away most women! If they really believed in God who gives free choice and will do the judging – they would not do these things that prevent most women from enjoying the saner conservative women.

The Left cannot tolerate conservative women who are happy to be stay at home moms, have large families, and let their husbands take the lead. In that crowd, there are also radicals who must call Liberal women baby killers and dykes and must protest outside abortion clinics and some even murder abortion doctors setting up a fair shriek from the other side in their own defense.  What they don’t realize is that most women are not radical! Most women have children, husbands and professional lives these days and do it all without the benefit of fair pay, equal rights, under tolerable conditions and with the proper respect.

TMU WOMEN- have busted our buts for nearly 4 years trying to bring together those women! Women who refuse to be pigeon holed either left or right. WOMEN who are sick and tired of being labeled and boxed and forced to chose! WOMEN who are tired of watching their sister being raped in Egypt while the Radical Left and Right do nothing and the rest of us think you have NO VOICE!

Do you realize that you have a group that will speak for independent you? THE MAORITY UNITED -WOMEN, will speak for you! TMU will never ask if you are Pro anything regarding you reproduction- we don’t care how you vote either – that’s why they have curtains on voting booths!

What we do care about is your rights as a woman or child and we care that you get justice as a citizen of the US.

I have been mercilessly attacked by the radicals from both sides — I’m still standing! I will bet you there are more of us then there are of them!

If you do nothing- nothing will be done! I can’t do this alone — will you sit there and just talk and just write and just fight among yourselves and just point fingers back and forth? 

We all know the problem.  I have thought of a solution! Leave the problem, the troublemakers, to their own devices while the majority unites and does the real work.

 We can do this! Spread the word– I am not quitting– how about you?

Are you going to continue to let NOW speak for you, if they don’t? Will you let Family Matters, Concerned Women for America, speak for you if they don’t?

TMU- Freedom of Choice: Fighting for human rights for all women.

TMU
IMAGINE

Empowering Women to Unite & Mobilize !
To Restore The Constitution and Ensure Equality for All.


Our WOMEN will
 
1- Achieve an  End of Violence Against Women and Children.
2- Achieve Equality, Opportunity and Justice for All – this is a Human Right.
3- Achieve Representative Government of the people , for the people and by the people as intended by the Founders

Palinoia: a lesson on woman’s derangement

Another Rant By: BettyJean Kling

UPDATE 7:18 PM : You must read Robin of Berkley – American Thinker
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/why_the_left_hates_sarah_palin.html

She puts this rant to shame and shows me that I no longer have the stomache for this. I’m burnt out. Done , finished, can’t handle this trying to help women anymore- Thank you Robin of Berkley!

I just read a really good piece that confirms my suspicions about why people treat Governor Sarah Palin the way they do. The reason, however, doesn’t matter because … there is never a good reason to treat another human being the way Ms. Palin is treated.

I am so disgusted by the failure in our society for having anyone available to step up and properly denounce this unseemly behavior.  I want to scream obscenities and shake people and slap faces and call POTUS ugly names for not admonishing the nation for this outrageous and un-American behavior.

 If our President is this lame, where in God’s good name is the Pope, to call on our church leaders? Surely someone somewhere? Why haven’t her friends the Grahams called out to that to heal itself of this ungodly behavior?

Faux Feminists can’t say they are for women while they help with the onslaught.  Conservatives can’t be doing the Lord’s will. Obviously it’s about jealousy from the women – women who can’t stand the fact that she has it all and looks like she does and actually enjoys her life too! There she is in her leather suits looking better than a body has a right too, while also being able to cook, clean, hunt, and have babies, and work outside the home as the Governor of a state and have a brain?

Afraid she sets the bar too high?

I didn’t think it could be done either – but it obviously can – and she obviously has a real life with real problems too, a Down syndrome baby, a daughter whose real life problems had to be aired and discussed by the whole world.  

 I also get the part men and women alike can’t stand a woman who stand up to the biggest and the best of them – even telling POTUS he hasn’t got the cajones.  Frankly, she has more balls than most Americans have.

IMHO, Palin’s problem is men are afraid their balls will shrink and women are afraid more will be expected of them and they may have to grow a pair.  The haters call her a moron.

Hypocritical Bastards. The duplicity of the Left is frightening – are they schizophrenic or dim-witted or just plain take the rest of us for fools?

Just exactly where are these  haters sitting right now, how much in their bank accounts, how many positions straight up the ladder have they held, and have they run for VP of the US lately?  Who’s the moron?

It’s one thing to not like the women’s politics—it’s quite another thing to be so damned jealous of another woman that you would … 

For three years I have worked my finger to the bone trying to unite women from both sides of the aisle and God love them many have come. I formed a 501(c)3, and several wonderful women run groups have also joined our efforts but I keep hitting the same roadblock each time I stand up for Sarah Palin. Some balk, some quit. Well I am not going to stop standing up for Sarah or for any other human being who is mistreated and since that doesn’t suit enough women– is going to take one step back for every step it takes forward. I guess this organization’s odds of success are only 50/50 at this time. Not my kind of investment- I have already vested a fortune and frankly – I have fallen in love with almost every women I have met and worked with but we were born women and my dream of uniting women is lost on an era of women no longer existing in  numbers large enough to pull it off.

We don’t need another girls club; we already have enough Liberal women’s groups and Conservative women’s groups. We have minority women’s groups, we have hate groups, love groups, uppity groups and every damned group you can think of including the one and only WOMEN’s group founded and created to unite all women regardless and in spite of all the above but it fails to gain ground precisely because too many women prefer to run in packs like wolves, and klatch in their gossipy little groups or form cliques devastating for odd girls out who are ostracized.

And so they shall remain as they please. “They” said it couldn’t be done – “They”   were right- it can’t.

Someone much more articulate and less aggravated with “They” than I, wrote a hell of a good article- Read it here:

Palinoia, the Destroyer
What’s behind the left’s deranged hatred?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704590704576091962633206964.html

Surrogate friends needed for strangled victim and Ketra’s daughters

By BettyJean Kling and Heather

If the real friends of Ketra are too afraid of the Turner family, and based on the attacks I can’t blame you, then we will have to show them that the rest of us will not be bullied into keeping quiet or backing down or caving in to their bullying and bashing of Ketra.

So will the real friends of all battered women please step forward?

Gregory Scott Turner’s friends and family are trashing this woman left and right in order to turn the victim of strangulation into the perpetrator and the perpetrator into the victim. Not only his family but his male roommates from college are on this quest to destroy the girls’ mother’s reputation just to preserve the father’s reputation. Isn’t it odd that the living parent should be destroyed by the family of the dead parent? That very man who the girls watched abused their mother. This will seal their fate as they grow up to believe their father died a hero and women deserve to be beaten and are bad. This couple has two daughters both witnesses to a horrendous crime. Should these girls have to find only one side of the story and that being that their mother was a cheating bitch who deserves to be beaten and caused her wonderful husband – their daddy to be dead?

 I think not! I think these girls are already in a family that condones domestic violence and they are going to need all the help they can get. If they are going to find news – let them find news that there were groups like this out there that said NO!

No!  Bashing , beating, strangeling, and trashing their mom is not OK.  Please help me leave positive messages for the Turner girls!

Update, December 20, 10:14 a.m.: UC Irvine criminology student Gregory Scott Turner, who was wanted for the attempted murder of his wife last week, was found dead in San Juan Capistrano Friday afternoon.

An autopsy report is pending, but it is believed the 33-year-old took his own life. He was discovered by campus police who tracked Turner through the GPS signal from his cell phone.

His wife, who was taken to a safe house after treatment at a hospital, has been identified as 32-year-old Ketra Batiste-Turner.

Original Post, December 16, 8:40 a.m.: A 7-year-old girl called 9-1-1 Wednesday afternoon to report her father, in front of her and her 5-year-old sister, beat their mother to unconsciousness in their campus apartment at UC Irvine.

A manhunt is now under way for Gregory Scott Turner.

Or, the 33-year-old criminology student’s body.

Campus police believe Turner, who is wanted for attempted murder, may be suicidal.

They say he tried to strangle his wife during a violent confrontation in their Verano Place apartment before the emergency call was made around 2:20 p.m. Wednesday.

Turner was last seen driving a 2006 blue Chevy truck with the license plate 8P53538.

His daughters, who were not physically harmed during the attack, are now in protective custody while their mother is being treated at a local hospital.

Verona Place is the same UCI apartment complex where Brian Hughes Benedict is alleged to have chased his ex-wife Rebecca Clarke out of her unit on Sept. 13, 2009, before shooting her to death in the parking lot. Their 4-year-old son was strapped into a car seat in the lot at the time.

His family demonstrates a violent temperament striking out in rage and vengeance with threats. Hi sister Amanda admits to being a victim of 15 years of battery by the hands of her own husband so this kind of wife beating is acceptable to this family and apparently these innocent children will be expected to tolerate the same.

 I would like to share some of the comments about Ketra and have folks please come and defend her . She is the victim here and does not deserve to be disgraced so that the memory of her brutal husband can be glorified and the blame be shifted from him to her as deserving to be beaten to a pulp and strangled and left for dead.

stacy, on December 21, 2010 at 5:44 pm
well maybe it was his wife or possibly a lover of his wifes… maybe he found out about an affair. maybe she got caught. maybe thats why he flipped. maybe just maybe…..

GregsOldRoomMate, on December 21, 2010 at 11:57 pm said:
I lived with Greg, and Ketra used to bring over friends (male friend she was sleeping with) when she’s be mad at Greg to try to get him ‘beat up’ but we always had his back till she tricked him to move to CA. Sad, and glad the autopsy proves it was murder. God never sleeps. The murder will be found, RIP GREG, you will be missed by your REAL FAMILY AND FRIENDS

astrid, on December 22, 2010 at 12:02 pm said:
i also understand that domestic violence goes on everyday to millions of women; but is it really always the guys fault; i mean if i hit a guy ima expect him to hit me back; im putting myself in that place right? && for the innocent women; i know sometimes its hard to walk away but how is it the guys fault if you stay

aManda, on December 23, 2010 at 6:46 pm said:
this is gregs sister; i have been battered and beaten for 15 years by my husband so dont tell me i dont know what its like; first off you have no right to pass judgment on anybody! secondly if you have been through this than you would have turned to GOD! so keep your fuckin mouth shut about shit you dont know! she beat him by the way; shit! i still and ALWAYS will love my brother!

Carlos Montoya, on December 24, 2010 at 2:32 am said:
I knew Greg for Some Time and once were Roomates when he lived in Dallas,Tx and the first time i meet, at the time his fiance(ketra B.)i noticed she was VERY Dominant,as i Advised Greg at the Time,In which to me is a Possible Problem.It’s One Thing to be Equal but when a Woman is DOMINANT,that’s an Issue.Males are born to be Dominant,Not Woman.but in Today’s Time it Seems to be OK,When a Woman Hits a Man,but Turn that around and All of Sudden you’re a Criminal.Watch Tv and see for yourself.Tv is Making Woman “Think” it is OK to “TOUCH” a Man.If you look closely in the mugshot pic of Greg,you’ll see some Marks on his Face,but yet Only he went to Jail,Not Ketra,as Well.I Believe GREG was a Good Guy,Who Fell Victim,because he Loved Her and Maybe caught Ketra Cheating,as some have accused,it would Make sense.or Maybe He Took his Own Life ,cause he thought he could of Possibly Killed Her and did’nt want to go to Prison,Maybe then but What about the Children?So if the new boyfriend killed Him i would see a Motive or Setup,GReg Turner MAy You Rest in PEace and MAy the TRUTH come Out.RIP

Carlos Montoya, on December 24, 2010 at 2:44 am said
Also,If Greg Wanted to Kill Her.Then She Would of Been DEAD.There’s More to it,like a Rage of Passion/Emotions.He Did’nt Want Her Dead,Why did he STOP,Untill he knew she was Dead,If that was the Case.Give the Guy a Chance.Look at the Other Possiblities,it’s Not Always as it Looks on the Surface.ASk yourself WHAT would you Do if you found out your Wife/husband was Cheating on you?Would you just Leave,Some do and Many Don’t.What If she Rubbed it in His Face?What if this was Setup,to put him in jail?This girl was Tough,She could of probably kicked many guys butts,from when i meet her.I’m just Trying to Make ense of this Tragedy,for a Long Lost friend Greg,We will find the Truth.There are Two Sides to Every Story.Also i’m Not saying ketra,is Not the Victim here,but after reading some comments about possibly Cheating on him,Makes Other Motives come out into Play.R.i.P Gregory Scott Turner

And then from a real gentleman whose address is freeryder@yahoo.com Greg as you can see had real nice friends Uncontrollable RAGE- I was called Bitch by most of his family for several days

freeryder, on December 22, 2010 at 4:18 pm said:
wow freemenow your such a fat fuckin bitch get the dildo outta your mouth go lose some weight an get laid quit talkin shit that you know nothing about what if this was your son I wouldn’t wish anyone to do this to him so get a fuckin lif

Heather wrote:

So many times I read about women who have been killed or nearly killed by their husbands or lovers, and the killer then kills himself. So often a man who has beaten his wife or lover is released from jail only to commit more violent acts.

As I would expect everyone to acknowledge, statistically, men are by far more likely than women to commit violent acts against intimate partners. When I read the post, the story of Greg Turner fit right in line with every other story I’ve read for years about domestic violence. I see a lot of comments from various people trying to spin the story into being focused on Greg Turner and how he was wronged by Ketra. Comments that suggest there should be some equality to criticizing perpetrators of domestic violence as if Ketra somehow drove Greg to hurt her and then himself. If the reporter got the facts wrong, then the family and friends of Greg should be focused on the news source to get a correction instead of attacking people at this site. There is no equality of abuse – men by far are the perps.

I am so weary of the continued efforts either with this couple or another to cast the blame on the woman for somehow driving the man to his illegal conduct. When will abusers start taking responsibility for what their bodies do? If only women had the mysterious control abusers and their defenders attribute to us, we could end domestic violence and sexual abuse right now! Not one more child would be raped or killed! No woman would be in fear of rape or death at the hands of a man. No child would be harmed by their fathers or the boyfriends of their mothers. No child would be the target of sexual predators at school or in the neighborhood or at the mall.

I agree with Heather.

I agree with Heather. For the Turner girls Justis and Memorie – we all need to step up and say – it is not ok to beat a woman for any reason. It is not OK! Whatever else happened to Greg Turner- he had no right to beat and strangle their mother – he was a wife beater and an attempted murderer and their mother did not deserve to be touched for any reason on earth.

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