Women settle for crumbs at the liberals table as Dems continue war against women.

BettyJean Downing

VAWA watered down as part of the war against women, Democrats set the table and Republicans drink the kool-ade!
100 Years Ago, women took to the streets and demanded the right to vote. What will you fight for this year? We the women of the free world are the majority, and yet not only are we not covered under the Constitution of the United States, but we ostensibly need a Violence Against Women Act to protect us. Yet with the new act, we are forced to share what little funds we have with Gay men and non-citizens, as well as with any other peoples our government can find to share the already paltry sum amongst!

Still hanging after all these years? Free us now! ERA to free women - we are the niggers of the world!

Still hanging after all these years? Free us now! ERA to free women – we are the niggers of the world!

How disgusting that we, the women of the greatest country on earth, need an act specifically created to address the violence directed against us in the first place. But now, to have to share it with others totally negates the reason we fought for specific protection in the first place.
Is there nothing our government holds sacred for the female majority of the population? Are there not hate crimes in effect for gays? Are there no other recourse acts to be drafted for others in need that we women, who die at the rate of 4 a day, need to share our pitiful sum, stretch our already overtaxed resources to the breaking point, when not even a dent has been made all these years in lowering the staggering numbers of women who suffer and even die from gender related violence?
What was wrong with the Violence Against Women Act before the Democrats decided to alter it and force the Republicans to sign on or risk being held responsible for denying women protection? Once again, women are being used as pawns. And once again, we settle for crumbs at the Liberal table!
Where oh where were the women while this travesty against women was going on? How many of our own daughters must be slain, battered, and raped before we realize that we have once again laid down for the man and his political machine rather than for our own benefit?
CRY for the women who are dying so that the Liberal can continue to allow havoc to be wreaked upon women and blame it on a war coming from someplace else, when it actually comes straight from the liberal table set by the Democrats and their molls!
Shame on the conservative men and women who refused to step up and fight for all women—who refuse to expose this travesty for what it is. Shame on all those who repeatedly sell out women in the name of government!
Give us an Equal Rights Amendment. Free Us Now!

An Open Letter to: Eve Ensler

BettyJean Downing

Eve Ensler: ONE BILLION RISING, 2/14/13 V-Day’s most ambitious campaign yet

Eve,
I absolutely spread the word far and wide and made sure all my contacts did the same. I am writing to share how shocked I was that in all my years advocating for women and working in the filed  fighting violence against women – that this is the first time I have heard about ONE BILLION RISING! What a fantastic idea- thank you and please help me and other groups understand how to help make sure every woman and girl is aware of it in time to participate in ONE BILLION RISING 2014.

I am concerned that all women’s groups are not united and therefore our rally cries are not loud enough and powerful enough to shake the foundations of power against us. What can we do to enlist other women’s groups to engage in each other’s causes, to encourage all women to participate in every movement out there that empowers women? What can we do together to show the powers that be we really are a power to be reckoned with? As a whole, women do not present a united front; instead we are the women against violence, mothers against drunks, LGBT, Pro Life, Pro Choice, Anti War etc. etc. When will we just be the majority that we are? When will we again present ourselves as the WOMEN of America

You are absolutely right 33% of us will be beaten or raped, 4 a day in this country are murdered at the hands of a loved one who had beaten them before and was released to kill. About 50 % of us are adamantly against the other 50% politically, which mockingly keeps us politically weakened and unable to hold positions of power at home, on the job or in politics. An even larger percent ( I estimate upwards of 85%) of us is powerless financially because we are not united enough to grab and hold the power to self govern.

We stand at the point of sink or swim, we rally for particular issues and it’s like missing the forest for the trees. We are woman- we are the majority. The violence stops when we have our rights and full power. We won’t have that till we stop fighting amongst ourselves over the issues that were manufactured to keep us divided and fighting amongst ourselves. That old “a house divided against itself cannot stand” is true. Let history teach us and others that united we can overcome. We women are equal and can stand ready to lead and rule our own lives. Let’s demand respect, full equality, an end to violence can only come when we are united as the majority, powerful and voting as one block demanding full rights to self govern. Let the issues remain issues to be dealt with when we are in the position to govern but lets first get in the position to self govern.

Women’s History Month begins on Friday, March 1, 2013 (in 8 days) and ends on Sunday, March 31, 2013. 

Let’s demand a slot every day in honor of women’s history!

BettyJean
Thank you for joining ONE BILLION RISING, V-Day’s most ambitious campaign yet. 

When we started V-Day 14 years ago, we had the outrageous idea that we could end violence against women. Since then, hundreds of thousands of V-Day activists in audiences and on stages in over 140 countries have come together to demand an end to violence against women and girls. The funds we’ve raised together have kept organizations’ doors open, and the issue front and center in local media. 

But still today, the United Nations states that 1 in 3 women on the planet will be beaten or raped during her lifetime that’s more than one billion women and girls alive today. 

V-Day wants the world to see our collective strength, showing them exactly what one billion looks like. 

ONE BILLION RISING is a promise that on February 14th, 2013, we will ensure that millions of women and men rise up around the world to say, “ENOUGH. The violence ends NOW.” 

BettyJean, there is so much more to come. But for right now, you can help us launch ONE BILLION RISING with a few simple actions:
Share ONE BILLION RISING with your networks
Sign up for our text message updates in the US by texting BILLION to 50555
Follow V-Day on Facebook and Twitter

ONE BILLION RISING will make the earth move by uniting us through dance across every country.

BettyJean, I look forward to dancing, striking and rising to end violence against women and girls together with you.

In solidarity,

Eve Ensler

Sexualizing our Society 1

BettyJean Downing Kling
Adapted from Sexualizing America Part1 originally Publihed 2007

SEX SELLS? 
It sure does that’s why they do it! But who is doing all the buying?

Seems to me most of the sex selling is selling women and girls as objects to be used and abused by men and you would think that it appeasl mosts to men BUT, since women do most of the buying –  please explain to me why women are buying? How is selling women and girls as objects a benefit to our women? Why are our women buying the very items that lend themselves to our demise? The very items that make men rich while they demean us? Think not- think again! Stick with me over the course of my photo essay and I will unfold how they have and continue to escallate this insideous and not so secret offensive against the femle population in our society and thereby poison the the children from birth to have a skewed view of a hypersexualalized America.

Think I am exaggerating- I am going to bring you the proof! For 35 years I have harped now I am going to bring you physical proof, seeing is believing! This is what we are force feeding our children from birth. Both male and female are being normalized to believe what their lying eyes tell them about females based on what we project before them with what we wear and allow them to see as normal. Oh its normal alright and so is the resulting reprecussions of violence and abuse to our femle population now. Is this what we wanted?

Stay tuned for all 12 parts of this photo essay. Add to these images, TV programming and today’s music lyrics, peer pressure and a variety of other input that children are bombarded with from birth and you have a total picture of what they know as a sexualized and sometimes violent society.

 

In a society where media is the most persuasive force shaping cultural norms, the collective message that our young women and men overwhelmingly receive is that a woman’s value and power lie in her youth, beauty, and sexuality, and not in her capacity as a leader. While women have made great strides in leadership over the past few decades, the United States is still 90th in the world for women in national legislatures, women hold only 3% of clout positions in mainstream media, and 65% of women and girls have disordered eating behaviors. http://missrepresentation.org/the-film/



Just as the women under Shar’ia law accept their fate to be lower than dogs and their men believe they are the slave masters without question- we in America are conditioning our children to believe females are sexual objects and prey, rather than equals and males are sexual predators/dominators rather than equals.

So sex sells- somebody is buying it folks and it is up to us to put them out of the business of selling these ideas to our baby girls and boys!

By the way have you seen these gifts for kids: Tattoos for baby boys and Baby Stiletto’s for baby girls! Had enough yet?

Although many think that the shoes are just too cute, others believe they are hideous. Some people believe that putting high heels on a baby is perverted and will rob them of their innocence. Hayden Porter responded with,” A 3-month old baby has no idea she’s wearing high heels.”

To which I respond- every pedophile in town will enjoy the baby in stilettos! Let’s just put them on at birth and let’s make G-String diapers while we are at it – maybe tampon diapers too? Damned idiots!

Dereon Girls Ad Too Adult

Beyonce has gone too far- is she and her adult girl want to look like hookers – well that is one thing but dressing this little girls like this – it’s over the top! http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/23284914.html

All they are missing is a POLE because they are truly strippers in the making- where are their mothers? The same place most of our mothers are- with their heads in the sand while all this has been happening right under our noses. Check the clothes on your daughters and their friends – do it now! 

And now for the photo essay:

These first 7 photos represent 3 from Abercrombie and Fitch using models that appear to be under aged followed by  4 on ageism which shows a contrast between the supposed sexiness of the very very young and supposed used up- over the hill unattractiveness of older women. In my opinion this not only pushes sex while you are very young, it also leads to eating disorders, depression and poor self esteem and self image. It is disparaging and insulting to older woman not to mention disrespectful.


She- prey/submissive abused/sexy. They- strong/predators/sexualizing/abusing


She- prey/submissive abused/sexualized ganged on. They- strong/predators/sexualizing/ganging on


Every boys dream (he looks 14), a blond and a brunette – one on each arm to meet his every need. After all what else are they for? So tell me what item of clothing are they selling here anyway?

Now that we’ve learned what young girls are for let’s see what happens when they age?


You do not want to look like- or act like or listen to a MOTHER do you?


Either a young sex kitten or an old bag- one or the other – only two choices for women!


Young and sexy or a disrespected ugly old bag


Is it any wonder women feel depressed when they are marketed to and purchase from manufacturers who insult them? AND the damned fools keep buying from them! Why? An old bag you can actually love? What a damned insult! Keisel should be drummed out of business tomorrow!

Please send in any ads you find offensive and add to our collection.

Female: What is she? Not easily defined even by herself.

Another Rant by: BettyJean Kling

What is a female? A Female is depicted by others everyday all day long all over the world. Does anyone anywhere even know who or what a female is anymore? Does a female even know who she is? Ask her – she will tell you who she is to someone else no doubt! Lately it has become vogue to brag about being a mother. ‘As a Mom’, ‘Proud to be a mom’, ‘A Million Moms’ ‘Just a Mom’.

I am one of those and belong to every one of those online groups and darn happy to be a mom a grand mom and a great grand mom and proud to belong to all of the mom groups as well.

I am also a US citizen and proud to be one – and a wife and proud to be one a daughter and proud to be one but I am ultimately a female and when I take away all the other labels –I remain far and away a female. I need to know that as one of 52% of civilization – and of all of the population, I am something unique unto myself as well as a part of something and someone else!

How many of us unique females have no children, husband, siblings, or parents alive. What does that make us– nothings?

I dare say we had damned well better wake up and recognize that we are so much more than someone else’s something, subordinate only to them. As proud as we are to be part of a family, a marriage, and as parents we have forgotten we are in the end individuals.

If you are a religious or God fearing individual- God made you in his image – you are responsible to him for what you do about you too.   Religious or envirionmentalists — as females we are the majority on this earth and as such we have a responsibility to be lights and good stewards and responsible to teach our daughters and our sons by example.  As an example we should not be turning our backs  away from what is wrong but we need to turn against it.

 The time is now! There is a war on woman all across this world and it is up to every woman to stand up and say NO! Sadly, we spend less time on the community of women and to helping each other, which would strengthen our causes then we do on fighting each other. Indeed, it takes a village and yet we fight against other never realizing we are our worse enemies when we should be our best warriors.  Think again!

It is up to women to teach our sons and daughters that females are to be highly respected and we are to be accepted just as we are! We are not second-class citizens- not here – not anywhere around the world – let us stand up and start acting like it! We are woman first – not black women – not Hispanic – not gay- not straight – not someone’s wife or daughter first – to our own selves we need to be true!

Ask yourself — What is a female? Make sure you know your worth and be prepared to teach it to others – to your chidren!

Look at your daughters – know what a female is. When you look at your little girl – do you airbrush her perfect? Doesn’t she deserve to be a first class human being or are you raising her to be someone’s something? When you see a report of a wife missing or found dead at the hand of her husband – do you realize that could be your daughter you gave to a husband in marriage? Did you give her as a peice of property? Do you think those parents ever dreamed of such horror? In many religions, men are reared to treat their women this way and  these customs are coming here. Not that our men have not been bad enough here all along.

We are faced with two extremes regarding the treatment and condition of women right here in the US. There is a liberal or a conservative view – Sexualization or Religion both render her less than! Neither extreme is acceptable and we have no right to decide which box is right for your daughters! Human rights belong to every female and each of us is born with inalienable rights. These rights are being abrogated by man and government and it is being tolerated by the majority of our citizens in this the US an otherwise free country.

We the women of the US are not subjects of the government- slaves to our husbands nor are we subject to the churches. We are free human beings, brainwashed into submission by men who we can simply out vote by uniting against them and demanding our civil and human rights!

WHY? Because we women have not stood, up and said NO! We have hidden our eyes from the truth! Women in our society are disrespected and we can stop it now.

Reported in the US http://www.feminist.com/antiviolence/facts.html

4-5 women a day are murdered by their husbands in the US
1 in 4 women a day are beaten – only half are reported so 1-2 are feared to be harmed
1 in 4 college women experience completed or attempted rape during their college years

http://www.wisechoice.net/porn-statistics/

100,000’s a day have a Tiger Woods for a husband
Over 50% of men accessing the internet are using internet pornography on purpose
Internet Porn is the fasting growing cause of divorce in the United States

Pornographic websites 4.2 million (12% of total websites)
Pornographic pages 420 million
Daily pornographic search engine requests 68 million (25% of total search engine requests)
Daily pornographic emails 2.5 billion (8% of total emails)
Internet users who view porn 42.7%
Received unwanted exposure to sexual material 34%
Average daily pornographic emails/user 4.5 per Internet user
Monthly Pornographic downloads (Peer-to-peer) 1.5 billion (35% of all downloads)
Daily Gnutella “child pornography” requests 116,000
Websites offering illegal child pornography 100,000
Sexual solicitations of youth made in chat rooms 89%
Youths who received sexual solicitation 1 in 7 (down from 2003 stat of 1 in 3)
Worldwide visitors to pornographic web sites 72 million visitors to pornography: Monthly
Internet Pornography Sales $4.9 billion

Women appear to be brainwashed, given only two choices, Conservative or Liberal- Madonna or the whore. It’s only natural to fear the antithesis of the box we were forced into. If we break out of these boxes and stop fighting for the same booby prizes we can achieve the main goal. Why settle to be with a big wig who can at any time toss us aside when we can be the big wig ourselves? I would rather be in control than behind someone in control of me!

1.) Jessica Alba

Have you wondered how some celebrities manage to keep their seemingly perfect figures after pregnancy? Is it the personal trainers and private chefs that do the trick? Not entirely or perhaps not at all.  It’s the airbrusher! The real Jessica Alba , months after giving birth, is seen airbrushed, note the trimmed waistline and hips.

2.) Beyonce

I wonder why Vanity Fair digitally altered Beyonce’s image to appear several shades lighter on their cover.

3.) Kate Winslet

Although denies any retouching was done for her 2008 Vanity Fair photo shoot, a professional airbrusher interviewed by the Daily Mail disagrees:  “There is no real detail in her face. Any detail or wrinkles have been removed. There are no eye bags, contours and smile lines. Her bottom has been rounded off so it looks nice and pert. I would be very surprised if her bottom was like that naturally.”

4.) Britney Spears

These side-by-side photos were taken within days of one another.

5.) Julia Roberts

The Redbook editors plucked Roberts head from a paparazzi shot taken at the 2002 People’s Choice Awards while her body was borrowed from the Notting Hill movie premiere four years ago. The clipped-together photo is accompanied by a headline that blares, without a trace of irony, “The Real Julia.” 

6.) Jennifer Aniston

Wish you could have washboard abs like Jennifer Aniston after the age of 40? America’s favorite Friend does as well. When asked by host Barabara Walters what happened to the modest girl next door we used to love, Jen laughed, “She’s there! Photoshopped!”

7.) Sarah Palin

The body belongs to a 22 year-old woman known only as Elizabeth. An unemployed web site designer from New York City found the four year old pic on Flickr and pasted Gov. Palin’s head on it as a spoof for her Facebook page. And the rest has become as much a part of political yore as Swift Boat and Dukakis in a tank.

 

8.) Kelly Clarkson

Apparently Kelly Clarkson grew tired of Howard Stern making cracks about her ass and did something about it, or shall I say had her airbrusher do something about it.

The airbrushing later became so pronounced on her new album cover that Clarkson barely recognized herself. On a blog entry she wrote: “Its very colorful and they have definitely Photoshopped the crap out of me . . . Whoever she is, she looks great, ha!”

9.) The Women of the Israeli Cabinet

In a move straight out of Pravda, the Israeli ultra-Orthodox newspaper Yated Neeman airbrushed two female cabinet members out of a picture of the Israeli Cabinet and replaced them with two men not even in the cabinet.  The newspaper claims picturing women violates their laws of modesty but here in the States it simply violates our laws of common decency.

 
 

10.) The Dove Soap Women

Remember the Dove Soap campaign featuring “real”, full-figured women instead of the airbrushed, fake supermodels we’ve grown so accustomed to? Even when Madison Avenue ad executives try to keep it real, their itchy airbrush fingers get the best of them.

According to retoucher Pascal Dangin, these ladies were just as fake as the supermodels we so love to poke fun at. “Do you know how much retouching was on that?” he asked. “But it was great to do, a challenge, to keep everyone’s skin and faces showing the mileage but not looking unattractive.”

 

Gentlemen, next time your lady tells you the Hollywood ideal of beauty is impossible to live up to, believe her. And Ladies next time you think only a trollop posses for these things – think of the Israeli Cabinet members who disapeared.

Please do not write me comments about the women who pose for these- it is easy to blame women and leave the men blameless or to blame men but the truth is this: Sex sells because we have been selling women forever. For all of history we have been selling women- there are more of us then there are of them – let’s just stand up and stop it now when and where we can! ? Start with the advertisers. ‘Boycott them – but do it collectively so one gets hurt badly at a time- one at a time money talks!

What is a Female – do you know? How will you explain it to your 3 year old? Do you want to tell her she must grow up to be a mother even if her body will never make her one? Do you want to teach her to submit to a man who may beat her to death? Do you want to teach your 3 year old boy not to believe what his lying eyes tell him to believe ? She is not what he thinks she is – she is not what you think she is either!

She is a total work of art- she is every bit as valuable as the son you may have bore — act like it- fight for her right to be treated as the whole – human being she is! Do it Now!

NOW: Major Force Behind War on Women

BettyJean Downing-Kling

Is my tax dollar paying this scumb bag to teach our kids?

Are your tax dollars paying this scumb bag to teach our kids?

Terry O’Neil, NOW’s stunningly deafening silence, if continued, will result in the preventable deaths of women. Your failure to call out your cronies when they sexualize women gives them your seal of approval and our expressions of disgust. The major force behind the war on women is the women who will not stand up for other women!

While NOW and other liberal women’s groups are spending 98% of their time raging against anti-abortion public funding that may impact *28% women aged 15-64, that is 100% of the time they spend ignoring the problems that beset every woman all of the time.

For example: Nearly 5 women die each day at the hands of their intimate partners, 8 Million more are beaten and raped by their lovers. A woman is raped every 6 seconds in the USA.

It is estimated here that, as of 2008, about 28% of U.S. women ages 15-64 have had abortions. This figure has risen from 2.8% in 1973 to 11% in 1980, 19% in 1987, 24% in 1994, and 27% in 2001. http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/uslifetimeab.html

NOW’s statistics are a half decade out of date and remarkably low compared to the facts I have quoted. http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html

**In 2005, 1,181 women were murdered by an intimate partner. That’s an average of three women every day. Of all the women murdered in the U.S., about one-third were killed by an intimate partner.

2005, women experience about 4.8 million intimate partner-related physical assaults and rapes every year.

More than 600 women every day in the U.S. were raped or sexually assaulted in 2006.

NOW sends out newsletter every week to beguile women about abortion and the need to hold on to the right to their own body. NOW influences women to believe this is the most liberating and fundamental issue of womanhood. Apparently rape is not a problem – you can abort the blob of cells after all.

They will alert readers of every jot and title about each lawmaker and every fart they lay. They know every piece of legislation that might take a tax penny from abortion but they can’t update the information on the real crisis – the pandemic that threatens the lives of 5 women a day here in the US or the torture of 96 a day who are battered, or the millions of women losing their children at the hands of Family Courts who are at war with women and mothers, or with sexism and misogyny rampant within the media and the Liberals and especially the Democrats.

To hell with NOW — your stunningly dangerous efforts to promote abortion to the detriment of all other issues and including all women from all ideologies are resulting in the preventable deaths, battering, torture, degradation, slavery and sex trafficking of millions of American women and children. Count up the percentage of time you spend on abortion compared to that you spend on the real problems 90% of women face 100 % of the time. Come out from you quarter million dollar paycheck, and start giving real time to real women and real needs. You admitted it yourself- “A recent poll shows abortion ‘barely registers’ among voter priorities” so why is abortion your top priority? Is that how you keep moderates and conservatives out, or how to hold on to your dwindling base?

For Immediate Release
Contact: Mai Shiozaki, 202-628-8669, ext. 116

U.S. Catholic Bishops Major Force Behind War on Women
Statement of NOW President Terry O’Neill

February 23, 2011

The collusion of House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has led to an open declaration of war on the women of this country. The bishops have long sought to enshrine into law those policies of the Catholic Church that subordinate women. And they don’t care how badly women get hurt in the process.

In the last election, the bishops helped to elect legislators that would do their bidding, which includes enacting dangerous and discriminatory bills denying women safe, accessible and affordable abortion care and family planning, even encouraging hospitals to let women die in the name of ‘life.’

A recent poll shows abortion ‘barely registers’ among voter priorities, and yet Speaker Boehner has declared barring federal funding for abortion care a ‘highest priority’ — responding not to the call of his constituents but to the demands of the bishops. And it turns out abortion isn’t the only target, as evidenced by their stunningly dangerous efforts that, if enacted, can and will result in the preventable deaths of women:

Surrogate friends needed for strangled victim and Ketra’s daughters

By BettyJean Kling and Heather

If the real friends of Ketra are too afraid of the Turner family, and based on the attacks I can’t blame you, then we will have to show them that the rest of us will not be bullied into keeping quiet or backing down or caving in to their bullying and bashing of Ketra.

So will the real friends of all battered women please step forward?

Gregory Scott Turner’s friends and family are trashing this woman left and right in order to turn the victim of strangulation into the perpetrator and the perpetrator into the victim. Not only his family but his male roommates from college are on this quest to destroy the girls’ mother’s reputation just to preserve the father’s reputation. Isn’t it odd that the living parent should be destroyed by the family of the dead parent? That very man who the girls watched abused their mother. This will seal their fate as they grow up to believe their father died a hero and women deserve to be beaten and are bad. This couple has two daughters both witnesses to a horrendous crime. Should these girls have to find only one side of the story and that being that their mother was a cheating bitch who deserves to be beaten and caused her wonderful husband – their daddy to be dead?

 I think not! I think these girls are already in a family that condones domestic violence and they are going to need all the help they can get. If they are going to find news – let them find news that there were groups like this out there that said NO!

No!  Bashing , beating, strangeling, and trashing their mom is not OK.  Please help me leave positive messages for the Turner girls!

Update, December 20, 10:14 a.m.: UC Irvine criminology student Gregory Scott Turner, who was wanted for the attempted murder of his wife last week, was found dead in San Juan Capistrano Friday afternoon.

An autopsy report is pending, but it is believed the 33-year-old took his own life. He was discovered by campus police who tracked Turner through the GPS signal from his cell phone.

His wife, who was taken to a safe house after treatment at a hospital, has been identified as 32-year-old Ketra Batiste-Turner.

Original Post, December 16, 8:40 a.m.: A 7-year-old girl called 9-1-1 Wednesday afternoon to report her father, in front of her and her 5-year-old sister, beat their mother to unconsciousness in their campus apartment at UC Irvine.

A manhunt is now under way for Gregory Scott Turner.

Or, the 33-year-old criminology student’s body.

Campus police believe Turner, who is wanted for attempted murder, may be suicidal.

They say he tried to strangle his wife during a violent confrontation in their Verano Place apartment before the emergency call was made around 2:20 p.m. Wednesday.

Turner was last seen driving a 2006 blue Chevy truck with the license plate 8P53538.

His daughters, who were not physically harmed during the attack, are now in protective custody while their mother is being treated at a local hospital.

Verona Place is the same UCI apartment complex where Brian Hughes Benedict is alleged to have chased his ex-wife Rebecca Clarke out of her unit on Sept. 13, 2009, before shooting her to death in the parking lot. Their 4-year-old son was strapped into a car seat in the lot at the time.

His family demonstrates a violent temperament striking out in rage and vengeance with threats. Hi sister Amanda admits to being a victim of 15 years of battery by the hands of her own husband so this kind of wife beating is acceptable to this family and apparently these innocent children will be expected to tolerate the same.

 I would like to share some of the comments about Ketra and have folks please come and defend her . She is the victim here and does not deserve to be disgraced so that the memory of her brutal husband can be glorified and the blame be shifted from him to her as deserving to be beaten to a pulp and strangled and left for dead.

stacy, on December 21, 2010 at 5:44 pm
well maybe it was his wife or possibly a lover of his wifes… maybe he found out about an affair. maybe she got caught. maybe thats why he flipped. maybe just maybe…..

GregsOldRoomMate, on December 21, 2010 at 11:57 pm said:
I lived with Greg, and Ketra used to bring over friends (male friend she was sleeping with) when she’s be mad at Greg to try to get him ‘beat up’ but we always had his back till she tricked him to move to CA. Sad, and glad the autopsy proves it was murder. God never sleeps. The murder will be found, RIP GREG, you will be missed by your REAL FAMILY AND FRIENDS

astrid, on December 22, 2010 at 12:02 pm said:
i also understand that domestic violence goes on everyday to millions of women; but is it really always the guys fault; i mean if i hit a guy ima expect him to hit me back; im putting myself in that place right? && for the innocent women; i know sometimes its hard to walk away but how is it the guys fault if you stay

aManda, on December 23, 2010 at 6:46 pm said:
this is gregs sister; i have been battered and beaten for 15 years by my husband so dont tell me i dont know what its like; first off you have no right to pass judgment on anybody! secondly if you have been through this than you would have turned to GOD! so keep your fuckin mouth shut about shit you dont know! she beat him by the way; shit! i still and ALWAYS will love my brother!

Carlos Montoya, on December 24, 2010 at 2:32 am said:
I knew Greg for Some Time and once were Roomates when he lived in Dallas,Tx and the first time i meet, at the time his fiance(ketra B.)i noticed she was VERY Dominant,as i Advised Greg at the Time,In which to me is a Possible Problem.It’s One Thing to be Equal but when a Woman is DOMINANT,that’s an Issue.Males are born to be Dominant,Not Woman.but in Today’s Time it Seems to be OK,When a Woman Hits a Man,but Turn that around and All of Sudden you’re a Criminal.Watch Tv and see for yourself.Tv is Making Woman “Think” it is OK to “TOUCH” a Man.If you look closely in the mugshot pic of Greg,you’ll see some Marks on his Face,but yet Only he went to Jail,Not Ketra,as Well.I Believe GREG was a Good Guy,Who Fell Victim,because he Loved Her and Maybe caught Ketra Cheating,as some have accused,it would Make sense.or Maybe He Took his Own Life ,cause he thought he could of Possibly Killed Her and did’nt want to go to Prison,Maybe then but What about the Children?So if the new boyfriend killed Him i would see a Motive or Setup,GReg Turner MAy You Rest in PEace and MAy the TRUTH come Out.RIP

Carlos Montoya, on December 24, 2010 at 2:44 am said
Also,If Greg Wanted to Kill Her.Then She Would of Been DEAD.There’s More to it,like a Rage of Passion/Emotions.He Did’nt Want Her Dead,Why did he STOP,Untill he knew she was Dead,If that was the Case.Give the Guy a Chance.Look at the Other Possiblities,it’s Not Always as it Looks on the Surface.ASk yourself WHAT would you Do if you found out your Wife/husband was Cheating on you?Would you just Leave,Some do and Many Don’t.What If she Rubbed it in His Face?What if this was Setup,to put him in jail?This girl was Tough,She could of probably kicked many guys butts,from when i meet her.I’m just Trying to Make ense of this Tragedy,for a Long Lost friend Greg,We will find the Truth.There are Two Sides to Every Story.Also i’m Not saying ketra,is Not the Victim here,but after reading some comments about possibly Cheating on him,Makes Other Motives come out into Play.R.i.P Gregory Scott Turner

And then from a real gentleman whose address is freeryder@yahoo.com Greg as you can see had real nice friends Uncontrollable RAGE- I was called Bitch by most of his family for several days

freeryder, on December 22, 2010 at 4:18 pm said:
wow freemenow your such a fat fuckin bitch get the dildo outta your mouth go lose some weight an get laid quit talkin shit that you know nothing about what if this was your son I wouldn’t wish anyone to do this to him so get a fuckin lif

Heather wrote:

So many times I read about women who have been killed or nearly killed by their husbands or lovers, and the killer then kills himself. So often a man who has beaten his wife or lover is released from jail only to commit more violent acts.

As I would expect everyone to acknowledge, statistically, men are by far more likely than women to commit violent acts against intimate partners. When I read the post, the story of Greg Turner fit right in line with every other story I’ve read for years about domestic violence. I see a lot of comments from various people trying to spin the story into being focused on Greg Turner and how he was wronged by Ketra. Comments that suggest there should be some equality to criticizing perpetrators of domestic violence as if Ketra somehow drove Greg to hurt her and then himself. If the reporter got the facts wrong, then the family and friends of Greg should be focused on the news source to get a correction instead of attacking people at this site. There is no equality of abuse – men by far are the perps.

I am so weary of the continued efforts either with this couple or another to cast the blame on the woman for somehow driving the man to his illegal conduct. When will abusers start taking responsibility for what their bodies do? If only women had the mysterious control abusers and their defenders attribute to us, we could end domestic violence and sexual abuse right now! Not one more child would be raped or killed! No woman would be in fear of rape or death at the hands of a man. No child would be harmed by their fathers or the boyfriends of their mothers. No child would be the target of sexual predators at school or in the neighborhood or at the mall.

I agree with Heather.

I agree with Heather. For the Turner girls Justis and Memorie – we all need to step up and say – it is not ok to beat a woman for any reason. It is not OK! Whatever else happened to Greg Turner- he had no right to beat and strangle their mother – he was a wife beater and an attempted murderer and their mother did not deserve to be touched for any reason on earth.

Hillary: Leave them in their misery

BettyJean Kling

Still waiting for Hillary to step into this ring again? Hasn’t she done enough for her country? I hate to say I told you so – BUT I told you so.

The Democratic party will never ever let Hillary run- if they were ever going to – they would have let her have the seat she won in 2008 instead of hand it to what’s his name like they did. I am not going to belabor that fiasco again you were all there and either you can appreciate the truth or nothing I can say will allow you to think clearly so I am not about to waste good energy on an idiot.

Having said that- I also said don’t hold your breath waiting for her to run in 2012 or 2016 because the Dems will never let this woman – or maybe any woman run. I said it then and I will say it clearly again – if you are a Democrat who thinks that party gives a damn about you – you are a bigger jackass then the Dems are!

I Knew then as I know now that Hillary was the best hope of having a women President of her stature, a stellar candidate and yet – I was devastated that she bent over and took it with a smile instead of shoving it up theirs. Instead she took the SOS job and kept her nose clean and performed perfectly as the asshole near destroyed our country. And the nation began to chant for the woman who had actually won the people’s vote.  Even the Dems themselves began to ask – what did we do?

Chatter about a possible second Clinton run at the presidency ramped up after the Democrats’ serious losses in the mid-term congressional elections, which were widely interpreted as a referendum on Obama’s first two years in office.

Alas-the chatter scared the powers so  the same crooks who took her out in the first place – they who could never  never – just as I said in the first place- they were never going to let her rise— and so theylaid the fram work well and on que they framed her and there comes WikiLeaks to discredit her and take her out before anyone get’s any firm ideas.  Has our dear Hillary learned yet that she should have stuck it to the Bastards in 2008? Maybe her best reply to this is to quit by 1/1/11. That would pay them back in spades- do it Hillary.  Do it! They plan to harm you from here on out anyway- I knew it all along!

Hillary Clinton said Friday she would not run for president and her current job as secretary of state was probably her last public position and she would focus on women’s advocacy work after leaving office.

“If you look at what is still happening to women in many parts of the world it is tragic and terrible,” Clinton said.

“I feel very lucky because of my parents and then my education, the opportunities that I’ve had, so I would like to continue working to improve lives for others.”

Clinton, who Obama brought in as secretary of state after their hard-fought contest for the 2008 Democratic nomination, noted that people were now being given the chance to constantly reinvent themselves — something she has done repeatedly.

“Most of us will live longer than our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents … We will have a chance to do different things in our life,” Clinton said, adding that the one thing she had learned was “it’s not so much what life throws at you, it’s how you respond.”

“I’ve had a life that’s been filled with all kinds of opportunities and my fair share of challenges but I’m a very lucky person,” Clinton said.

Rise Hillary rise- screw them – you were always too good for the likes of these people. Go where you can do the most good and where you will be appreciated. You are loved and admired by many and to those who don’t appreciate you– well let them eat cake!

Hillary soldiered on – no one can say she did not go all the way – she never quit – she never gave up- never gave out- and never let them see her sweat but – they used and abused her and all the while perhaps we thought if she paid her dues — SHE WOULD GET TO BE PRESIDENT?

 I HOPE WE ALL LEARNED THAT YOU CANNOT PLAY THEIR GAME AND WIN. We win when we set the rules and from here on in – we set the rules!

Thank you Hillary for teaching us a lesson some of us will never forget- I am so sorry you paid this price but if some of us learn from it – it will not be in vain. You are the strongest woman I have ever had the please to personally meet, I am humbled to have know the woman- the legend- Hillary Rodam Clinton.

Now go and finish your real work with women and children and teach them well.

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