I just got this letter and I am sooooo confused – maybe it’s me- maybe I don’t read real good- maybe I don’t get it – When I read non-partisan I understand it to mean I don’t share the politics of either side! Silly me — now I find out it means I don’t share republican politics! Imagine that? How do I know? Women Count just said so!
Dear Friend,
When it comes to Sarah Palin, we’re damned if we do and we’re damned if we don’t.
WomenCount is a non-partisan, progressive organization that got its start during the Hillary Clinton campaign. So it’s no surprise that we don’t share Sarah Palin’s policy agenda or politics.
Now another thing that really got to me is how WC blows in the wind. Have they got the courage of their convictions… well maybe the question should be have they got convictions? Is this a women’s group or a political group? What are they? This letter clearly states they are non-partisan, and their website does not claim to be a democratic organization and clearly according to their own website quoted below they are to be supportive to women – not liberal women – not democratic women – not women whose politics is partisan- not women whose policy agenda or politics they agree with. Yikes – I’m confused.
WC
1- claims to be a political organization
2- claims to be dedicated to helping women make their voices heard in politics
3- claims to support women candidates running for office
4- claims to fight back against gender bias in the media
WomenCount is a political organization founded by women, operated by women, and dedicated to helping women make their voices heard in politics. We support women candidates for public office, raise public awareness about political and social issues that affect women, encourage our government to protect women’s rights and women’s interests, and fight back against gender bias in the media. If you’d like to join our grassroots effort to raise the political profile of women, please sign up for email updates from WomenCount.org.
So what the hell is this letter about? According to their website they are supposed to do all of the above but yet they are obviously catering to the left and make no apologies for it. They admit they defended her on gender bias (good) but criticized her on conservative issues (oops isn’t that a partisan issue?) what did they mean by didn’t back her simply because she was a woman? Did they really mean didn’t back her simply because she wasn’t a democrat- that is the real truth isn’t it? And how can they justify being silent when in a quandary as to what to do — as they clearly admit below and still ask for financial support?
But when we defended her during the campaign when she was the victim of gender bias because it was the right thing to do, we were attacked. When we criticized her on issues of policy and didn’t back her as some had hoped simply because she is a woman, we were attacked. When we were just silent and neither defended nor criticized her, we were attacked.
Now for the icing on the cake! How dare they make this statement which clearly suggests Sarah is the wrong symbol for women in politics.
We can take the heat, and we did. But it all misses the point: If we had more women in office in the first place, Sarah Palin wouldn’t be the symbol that she is for women in politics.
Now, I was almost humbled with this part of the letter thinking it was about time that WC finally gets it.
Frankly, I am tired of hearing that Palin sets women back, that she has disappointed us, embarrassed us, and the worst, that she reflects badly on all women.
But — Did WomenCount just say they agree Palin sets women back, that she has disappointed us, embarrassed us, and worse, that she reflects badly on all women in the following statement?
Not because it’s not true, because I am afraid it is, but because it shouldn’t be. When a man in politics makes a misstep or a bad decision, does it reflect on all men? Ha.
I must say WomenCount and specifcally, Stacy Mason, you have set women back, have disappointed us, embarrassed us, and worse, reflected badly on all women by making such a statement.
Their colleague Meghan Harvey is correct, we’re down to six women governors, 17 percent representation in Congress and the 24 percent of state legislators out of 50 states.
I also agree with Women Count
Sarah Palin does not speak for us, and she is not speaking for all women. But until there are more women in office and running for office, the impact of her actions on all women will be magnified to a degree that is disproportionate to what it should be. That’s not fair to her – or to us.
But while I agree we need more women in office and I also encourage you to run for office. I have to remind you that when WomenCount writes and asks for your financial support and encourages you to run and vote for other women by their own admission as shown in this letter which I have included pretty much in its entirety, they fail to tell you they are obviously an arm of the Democratic party or at the very least an extremely liberal left leaning and divisive group who would not include anyone with ideas they disapprove of- Oh how democratic. What happens to those of us in the center? Is there a litmus test we must pass? Where is the questionnaire – is it the same as the one I just has to pass at the NOW convention not to be spat at? I am a Hillary supporter does that make me a bitter old bat now? Does it make me a Palin lovin turncoat? I’ll tell you what it makes me – It makes me an American women just as good as any other and I’ll not be apologizing to anyone for being a free choice female able to think for myself without some party or some group dragging me along like a lemming following along like a cow at milking time.
They are divisive and divide women more than unite us. Yes we need more women and who the hell is WomenCount and all these other so-called woman’s groups to decide that all of them have to be leftists? This kind of thinking is what keeps us down and keeps us from being the force we need to be.
We need more women in office. So run for office. Vote for women who run. Support women who run. Another way to help: Support WomenCount’s work to promote women in politics.
I suggest they rewrite the above closing lines to more closely align with the rest of the letter this way:
We need more LIBERAL women in office. So if you are a DEMOCRAT run for office. Vote for LIBERAL women who run. Support DEMOCRATS women who run. Another way to help: Support WomenCount’s work to promote THE WOMEN WE SELECT AND APPROVE OF in politics.
The Majority United thinks ALL WOMEN COUNT
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ha, ha, ha!
I had just posted the same letter because of the same reason you saw: “non-partisan”???
incredible!
When we only speak out against sexism only when used to discredit the women we agree with, it is actually perpetuating sexism as an effective tool to defeat women .It is an easy decision for the Women’s Media Center to post a video about how Fox News treated Senator Clinton, just as it would be for a Republican group to post one about how the MSM treated Governor Palin.
Where were the so-called women’s groups when Senator Obama was allowing sexism to be used against Senator Clinton during the primaries.Until all women of all political persuasions refuse to tolerate any sexism period it will continue to be an effective tool. How many women have been dissuaded from stepping into the political arena because of the treatment of both women during the last election cycle?
One of the ironies of this situation is that those women who fear Governor Palin’s religious convictions are advocating for Judge Sotomayor. If confirmed, Judge Sotomayor will become the 7th Catholic on the current Supreme Court.
Hi, BJ: I’m thinking good thoughts for Louisa and you. Women Count sent me an email inviting comment on their Sara Palin take. I’ve been following the thread on Cinie’s World for four days now. Palin can certainly draw a crowd! But they’re up to their old tricks: Calling All Women, but only supporting PROGRESSIVES. (code word for political hackers who want it all and want it RIGHT NOW!)
Here’s MY rant:
The Only thing I want WomenCount to Count are the “X” Chromosomes in a candidate. If she’s a WOMAN, get with it, stop with the petty bullshit and deliver a victorious WOMAN. Enough with the buts. Mind your excuses for why you wouldn’t support “that” woman and just put women in office with your MAJORITY. This country needs to be taught to RESPECT WOMEN, and nothing will accomplish that better than women voting as a BLOCK to make SURE that the prospect is as terrifying as possible to the Powers that Be (DNC/RNC) Not all women will share your politics. Certainly, not all men, who ARE elected, prove to be what you thought they were when you voted for them. I don’t care if it’s Phyllis Schlafly: we want to elect women. JUST DO IT or get on with your slavish subservience to jealousy, the man, whatever excuse you can add into the hatred-of-women mix and watch the NEXT collective of activists organized under some Social Umbrella, jump the line on you and enter that fraternity.
I’ve paid my dues! Either I’m in this club or I’m not. If you just wanted my dues, don’t expect me to renew.
Click here: http://civilizationsaver.blogspot.com/
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That a girl – Just like the parties- all they want is your dues and your slave labor all the goodies are for the big wigs raking it in at the top !
I am so sick of all these so call Women groups claiming to support and stand up for women human rights when even they put conditions on what women and what rights they will support. It is again all about money and power. They have become as bad as the media and other female bashing groups.
I will not contribute to any of them again until they have proven to stand behind all human rights for all women regardless of their politics or lack of. Do anything less gives them no purpose for existence. They might as well join the boys club….
Dear Freemenow…THANK YOU for calling this out. I was unaware of this latest letter. The following is an exchange I had with Stacy back in March. With this new letter, the organization is truly exposed and I’m done with it for good. mary
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:04:02 -0600, ”
> > wrote:
>>> I heard Jehmu Green on Fox and Friends this morning and was very disappointed to hear that she was just parroting obama talking points. Is
Jehmu still a part of / spokesperson for Women Count?
>>> I’ve unsubscribed to WomenCount because I do not want to be a part of an organization which is just an arm to the obama administration.
>>> mary
> —– Original Message —–
> From:
> To: “Mary
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Just another organization supporting Obama?
>
>> Mary,
Jehmu is actually no longer a spokesperson for WomenCount. WomenCount continues to work to give women a voice in the political process. We hope you will stay with us as we work together to build our movement.
>> Best,
>> Stacy
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:18:03 -0600, “Mary ” Dear Stacy,
>
> Thank you for your response and clarification of Jehmu’s role. Let me explain where I’m coming from…
I live in Texas and was heavily involved in the primary and know where and how the obama campaign manipulated the system and broke the law to
promote its candidate. The vote is the most basic expression of a woman’s voice in politics and the Obama campaign did not care how or whose rights it violated to promote its candidate..including old women. I cannot abide the corruption I witnessed and wish never to belong to such an organization. My concern was that Jehmu was on TV parroting obama’s talking points from the day before and at the same time was identified as a founder of WomenCount. Her actions tainted the organization for me.
>
> I appreciate the invitation to rejoin and what you are trying to accomplish.. I will sign up and follow WomenCount, but again I do not wish to belong to an organization which blindly aligns with obama.
>
> Regards,
>
> mary
—– Original Message —–
From:
To: “Mary
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Just another organization supporting Obama?
> Mary,
> Once the primary ended, we have always said we’re not about any candidate — we’re about giving women a voice and creating a movement that addresses the issues that emerged from the campaign. And goodness knows we have a lot of work to do. We are not aligned with any candidate; we’re here to move women forward.
So thanks for signing up again. We need every voice.
> Best,
> Stacy
I am reluctant to join any women’s group. The kool-aid has tentacles everywhere. I’m biding my time until a really bi-partisan (grown-up) organization takes root. BJ, I appreciate everything you do and say. You call it like it is – no bullshit. And, can I tell how tired I am of hearing about abortion and how it continues to be a driving wedge between women? Lord, can we finally get past that? Just accept the fact that no one tells another person that they “have to have” an abortion just as no one person tells another person that they “can’t have” an abortion. Abortion is the least of our problems. With all the violence and hatred directed at women today, we really should be rallying around each other and working to put a stop to that. Our daughters and granddaughters futures depend on it.
P.S. I requested that WomenCount to remove my name from their mailing list. I don’t have patience for petty manipulations.
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I agree completely–there are SO MANY fake women’s groups in America!!!
It is Mind Boggling! NOW did not support Hillary or Sarah while the media tore them apart. The Women’s Media Center is a gay, yet pro-male Democrat group
which has DONE NOTHING to defend Hillary or Sarah and –here we go again–WomenCount does Not, in reality, believe that Women Count at all. Instead, they
believe that San Francisco-based left wing politics count.
They should just tell it like it is: 1) they believe feminism is only about abortion, 2)they believe whatever anybody’s big money wants them to believe, 3)it is more important to them to be liked than to be respected and fight for what they claim is their cause, and 4)they support young immature Sarah-Haters over the more mature broad perspective that shows how important it is to support ALL women who support other women.
SARAH PALIN APPOINTED A PRO-CHOICE JUDGE TO THE ALASKA SUPREME COURT AND THEY DID NOT EVER GIVE HER CREDIT FOR THAT. Sarah Palin is an dedicated, hard-working, fair-minded, refreshingly honest, patriotic, spunky, independent, intelligent women. They need to stop being narcissitically jealous of her or left wing radical terrorist warrior women against her and just bite the bullet and support good women like Sarah Palin.
Here is what I wrote them:
To Women Count:
How can you sincerely defend a Sarah Palin, or not, saying you’re “damned if you do, and damned if you don’t,” but then you make a statement such as that below.?
It fairly reeks of hypocrisy.
“Women Count?” It sounds as if certain types of women count more than others, given your statement below.
The point is that sexism and misogyny are rampant and vicious for female political candidates of all parties. You defend the people being attacked with the backhanded statement below to appease those who don’t like the person being defended (in this case, Palin). Where were you with Hillary Clinton? For shame.
Quote:
“Frankly, I am tired of hearing that Palin sets women back, that she has disappointed us, embarrassed us, and the worst, that she reflects badly on all women. Not because it’s not true, because I am afraid it is, but because it shouldn’t be. When a man in politics makes a misstep or a bad decision, does it reflect on all men? Ha.”
Remove me from your contact list. You are clogging up my email box with this hypocrisy.
I see Sarah Palin as a plainspoken woman who has worked hard to achieve all that she has without the benefit of a silver spoon or a trust fund. As far as I’m concerned, she is a valid and valued role model for young women by virtue of her accomplishments, regardless of her ideology.
For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m ashamed of my former political party. And I’m embarassed and appalled by the blatant hypocrisy of some of these so called “women’s groups”. And I would like to see your question answered BJ. What about those of us in the center?
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Hey BJ,
This email totally confused me too…well actually partly confused me. Except that I got their number a while ago.
I’m not sure why I never unsubscribed from their email list – probably a combination of laziness and the fact that they don’t send many emails.
Here we go:
“WomenCount is a non-partisan, progressive organization that got its start during the Hillary Clinton campaign. So it’s no surprise that we don’t share Sarah Palin’s policy agenda or politics.”
That made no sense to me at first either. I didn’t get why they say it is no surprise that they don’t share Palin’s politics, when the first part of the paragraph says they are non-partisan. Then I realized they must be referring to the statement about starting during the Clinton campaign. But why would that necessarily mean they share Clinton’s politics? It’s very badly worded to say the least. If they are still aligned with Clinton’s values (with which I certainly wouldn’t be against) then they should say so, instead of saying they are non-partisan. Especially in the same sentence.
“But when we defended her (Palin) during the campaign when she was the victim of gender bias because it was the right thing to do, we were attacked. When we criticized her on issues of policy and didn’t back her as some had hoped simply because she is a woman, we were attacked. When we were just silent and neither defended nor criticized her, we were attacked.”
Well, the first tact would be the right one, and the one to stick with, no? If they are an organization for women, then they should be defending women against gender bias. But perhaps they are about policy, as the second sentence states. Are they saying they are changing their approach every time they are attacked, because they are attacked? That’s as lame as it gets. Caving, to be liked…? Isn’t that a problem with how females are raised – changing our stand so that we are liked? That’s a problem, as I see it. A very old one.
I agree with them that we need many more women governors, and more women in office. But if they take stands on policies how is that possible?
There are too many contradictions here. But let me tell you my short history with Women Count.
They raised money during the primary for a fantastic ad campaign addressing the fact that Hillary’s votes should be counted. I happily contributed, and the campaign was successful. Then they created another ad using the title “You still don’t get it” or something to that effect. It was in support of Hillary’s nomination, directed toward delegates, and was again planned for widespread distribution. It was a terrific ad. I again happily contributed. I looked and looked for the ad, and didn’t see it anywhere, for quite some time. Then I began emailing them to see what happened to the ad campaign, and never received a single response. A few weeks later I noticed their home page declared a major change in direction for the group, and was no longer backing Hillary. I was pretty angry since I had contributed for this specific ad, in support of Hillary, they still had my money.
I emailed them asking for a refund…again no response. I finally contacted my credit card company to process a refund. Later I had a voicemail from Women Count regarding my refund – funny they had never answered any of my email questions, but I got a phone call when I pulled my contribution!
I’m not paying to much attention to this organization, and to tell you the truth I will also be waiting to see some changes in NOW before I rejoin that one. I’ll join women’s groups when they start being for women!
- My 2 cents -
Tess
Tess – Good for you!! My sentiments exactly. I contributed a lot (for me) to Hillary’s campaign and felt smarted when she folded to the “Party Line”. I understand that she is a dyed in the wool Democrat, but that party dishonored all women during the 2008 Primary and I wished she could have turned her back on them. As a NJ resident, Jon Corzine will never get my vote again. He STOLE my vote, as did the entire Democratic Party. So, along with you, Tess, I will wait until I contribute again to any organization. I hope the opportunity comes soon!
TOUCHE’ BJ!!!!!!! I, too, thought it was an extremely, poorly written piece. If you stand for women, you MUST STAND FOR ALL WOMEN– unless those women are standing against women, or have done something illegal or that diminishes ALL WOMEN. It well may be a good idea to stay tuned and see how they continue to spin their web.
Perhaps, WomenCount is just a euphemism for abortions rights only or other issues not supported by those with more conservative views, only liberals need apply? As I understand it, that is not standing for all women and the promotion of women – just a small segment of the population of women, you know, the more than 50% of America. So is WomenCount only standing for a small percentage of 52% or so? Let’s see that may be at most 50 -70% of 52% which might be about 26 – 36.4%. Wow, by their own choices and actions, WomenCount are limiting for whom they stand. Not a good strategy in my book, and exactly why women have not been successful in the past. This should NEVER be a movement to divide which will surely lead to failure. You, BJ, have captured the essence of the movement – THE MAJORITY UNITED – is the ONLY way to succeed! (If you haven’t heard it or read it, I implore and encourage you to please read TMU Mission Statement.)
Kudos and thank you for all your very hard work and dedication,
CeCe
Hear, hear, I think you hit the nail on the head with “if you stand for women, you must stand for all women.” The NOW gang lost all credibitity when the neglected Paula Jones. That was the low water mark for NOW. It’s all the women, all the time.
If abortion is the dividing line in the women’s movement, can we make the issue about the “choice” TO get pregnant or NOT to get pregnant. If women will take control of of their pregnancies, then maybe we can reach common ground. Take responsibility for yourself – stand up for yourself. For the exceptions we will always need the freedom to terminate a pregnancy, but for the most part it is our responsibility because we have the most at stake. if we want control over our bodies – START AT THE VERY BEGINNING!! With all the medical options that are out there, I am amazed that we are still arguing over abortion. YOU DON’T HAVE TO GET PREGNANT! Stopping the pregnancy should be the first order. If we are going to make changes in the political arena, we have to stop fighting about abortion rights and start dealing with our pregnancy rights. I am one of seven kids and there was no way I was going to go down my mother’s road. I have exactly the number of children I “chose” to have! That is my right!
If we hand them that argument – and I have – they come back with and rightly so – rape- incest etc etc.
Unfortunately the argument should not be about abortion at all- it should be about what else is there!
The problem is that Pro Abortion folks must put the issue front and center omitting all else and the pro life do the same.
I am beginning to think the two extremes need to have their own organizations so they can fight it out to the death and let ther rest of us who simply want the question to remain freedom of choice to have a sane women’s organization which speaks to the miriad of other issues.
When i brought that up to NOW for example they reminded me that NOW has 6 issues.
WOW NOW – 6? Gee that’s dandy – now the guys can say ‘look at that – the little ladies have 6 issues! ‘
I’ll be damned if I am going to be dictated to by any organization as to what line I am to tow.
I do not feel any organization for women has the right to segragate us into left or right- where is the group where we all fit for simply being what we are ? WOMEN!
Further if they are going to be liberal – then damned it let em say so before they tout they are a woman’s group supporting all women speaking for all women and askingf all women for money when in fact they do not support all women.
Let them be as honest as Team Sarah which makes no bones about being a conservative organization and which by the way has just surpassed all of them in membership combined in in one year!
They asked for it- putting down conservative women as if they are stupid , backward and less than – will come back to bite them on the ass and they deserve it.
Not all republican and independent women are against the same issues but democrats and liberals have generalized and stuffed them all in a corner and painted them with the smae brush to their own peril. Now they have made enemies of their sisters –
After this last election most women are no longer left or Democrats so they find themselves in the minority and are too damed stupid to know it and still they sling arrows at the majority of women who did nothing to deserve this vitriol.
BJ
Sure, rape and incest are always on the table. That’s why we have to have the freedom of choice, However, we continue to be divided by many men who constantly threaten to take that freedom away from us and they use abortion as a weapon against us to keep us off balance. The don’t want women to be independent because that would put us in the majority and in a position of control. Never mind that I believe the whole world would be a whole lot better off with women on an equal footing with men. The real issue is “equality” and for some reason that becomes a huge threat to so many men. With all of the violence and misogyny out there, and getting ever so much worse I might add, women really do have to get past this abortion issue and unite. I listen to your programs a lot in the archive and you make so many good points…I wish women could just hear what you are saying. It is interesting that many of us here are of a generation that did not have legal abortion as an option and it was a huge deal when it finally arrived. For many it was a relief from a terrible burden. However, I would like society to hold men more accountable in situations of unwanted pregnancies. We have gotten away from their accountability completely and my argument has always been to impose sanctions on the men who help create unwanted pregnancies. But, I digress. One thing at a time. First we need to take abortion off the table and remove it like a monkey off our backs. I’m with you, women are a lot more about who and what they are and what they can contribute to their families and society than a set of ovaries and a uterus. We really do need to get past that and move onto and into true equality for us all.
I told them to remove me from their mailing list because I respect Palin immensely. This letter was a bunch of crap and I do not want anything like this to enter my inbox again.
Good for you! I am so proud of everyone – I only got 1 nasty letter and only 1 unsubscribe- if you can possibly get your friends to come post here at least for this one week on this subject – I would greatly appreciate it. I hear I am about to be attacked and the more comments on my side the better.
Pass the word around that the extremist are getting very very angry at me this week and want to take me down. I need help.
I support sarah palin and thanks for defending her–no one should have their children attacked
Well folks – I have been warned that I have ruffled more than a few feather and now i am about to be attacked – so get ready- next i will be called an undercover republican who is out to take abortion away from all women !
Oh lord – gather the forces – we are about to be attacked – let’s get ready we have seen what these extremist are capable of- they have no mercy! get your friends and lets fire back. We have rights too- We have choices and to hell with anyone who tries to tell us what to do with our bodies or how to vote or who to defend or anything else. And heaven help the woman who attacks a sister for the Dem party who threw us all under the bus.
I’ve been putting the call for backup out BJ, but I think you can take a bunch of little pipsqueak Obots out all by yourself. I’ve seen you in front of the camera, and they don’t stand a chance. Can’t quite bring myself to feel sorrow for them though, for some strange reason.
heheheheheeheheheheh- thanks a bunch- not sure if i can or can’t but I would do my best – its just so much more fun with help. heheheheheh.
Let’s go get em Gals!!!!!
Tthanks for the vote of confidence!
Why are you worried about being “taken down” and soliciting support? It sounds to me like you are trying to make yourself sound more important than you really are. I doubt that anyone really cares what you write. There are hundreds of better known right-wing bloggers and I just don’t see you getting any attention – based on what I’m reading here.
So leave.
Well you just came a callin right on que didn’t ya-?
And here you are claiming I am a right wing unimportant blogger ain’t ya?
As I said – they are on their way! No sooner said then done – although I have to admit – I was sure they would send something better than this!
I am insulted – I thought they would at least hit me with their best shot not this pissant!
Thank you for supporting Sarah Palin.
Thank U 4 defending Sarah !
I don’t know if you “read real good” or not, but you certainly don’t write or punctuate “real good”. Instead of relying on your understanding of words like non-partisan (sic) I would suggest you rely on a good dictionary.
I suppose when it comes to Sarah Palin and the non-support she receives from some women’s groups, it is all about the abortion issue. You were right to call Women Count out about the “non-partisan” nature of their organization.
Women groups are mostly a joke! They preach pro-choice, but when we make a “choice” that is not on their agenda, they demonize you! What kind of “choice” is that! Thank you for defending Sarah Palin! Here is a woman who made “choices” she believes in, that was right for her – not someone else’s – hers! Her “choice” was to have children, her “choice” was to carry to term a downs syndrome baby. her “choice” to be conservative, her “choice” to fight for her country! I may not agree with some of the “choices” some women make, but I love the fact we can make “choices”.
You are absolutely right and that is exactly what pisses me off- these so-called women’s groups are really molls for the men! It’s clear- they are playing the MAN’ game for them while the men sit back and watch the ladies rip themselves apart.
how stupid can these women be? I am tired of this bullshit now- there are more of us then there are of them and I say lets rise up and toss them the hell out and run the damned show our way.
We are the majority of the world- the country and should be running everything and certainly these groups not the radical few that make us all look like fools.
Its these few that make us all look bad.
Remember power corrups and absolute power corrups absolutely.
Nice piece there bj! I enjoyed the way you pulled out each piece of their BS and took it apart piece by piece making them look like hypocrites. They sound like a very catty and cunning group/ organisation who thought that they could get away with double speak until BJ came along.
Thank You Lynnzy- where or where have you been – I miss you and talk about bj comming along – you are one heck of a great speaker too and i really really miss hearing from you – don’t be such a stranger – we need women like you to step up and give me an hand- spread the word – we are now ready to let em have it- we are not going to sit back and lets these cats speak for us anymore!
We are women hear US roar damned it- we have voices raise them now!
Did you read the Washinton Post? Talk about women bashing other women and for what gain? Lettermen is at it again calling her Octomom? What is it with all this? Since they’ve put Hillary in a hole in the State Offices and have her under lock and key as if she does not exist is it now time to bring down the second greatest woman politican?
Ladies, we need to do something about Lettermen and the Washington Post? Forget NOW as they are a waste of time and have only their left wing agenda even with Terry. I promised to join but now refuse as you CANNOT change them from within–you must have a better and new and more effective organization. I joined TEAM SARAH and ask everyone to join as well because at least they stick up for women as did Susan B. Anthony. Time to mobilize and fight!
Rosemary – Team Sarah is just as much – bless their hearts one sided ( who can blame them) as the the others are ! I belong to Team Sarah and Now and Women count and TNa and every other women’s group so that I have a pulse on them all.
The last thing we need is to align with another one sided women’s group against the other one sided women’s group- what we really need to do is JOIN The Majority United and with a heavy weight of the real majority — force these groups to either speak for all women or cease and decist calling themselves women;s groups and claim what they really are ( Team Sarah already does declare to be conservative)which leaves then only one group standing for all women.
The Majority United
PS When it comes to women count they haven’t a clue? How do they differ from NOW? About time for a women’s organization that really is FOR WOMEN! Any ideas will be greatly appreciate and its time to do some research.
Please forgive the following rant – I took off and now that I did – I have come back to add this piece and say – I did not mean it as anger – I meant it to say – here I am baby – put your dreams away!
Rosemary- what research? Here I stand and I have been standing here all along – same story day after day since day 1 – I have never waivered not once. What research?
I have asked that millions of women join NOW and run for office did they join – did they run? NO- what research – just like the government – if we do not join in and rund ourselves then we are leaving it in someone else’s hands and get exactly what we deserve!
What research- I have been beating this friggen drum for 2 years now i am starting my own – is anyone joing me? NO- so what the hell research – I can lead them to water – what if they will not drink- what am i to do?
What research?
Here I am – The Majority United- ALL women all the time-
Research this! My Mission Statement:
IMAGINE: The Majority United
The Majority United for Women’s Equality, Laws, Rights and Choice
http://www.free-us-now.com/
Hillary Clinton during the 2008 election stated that ‘women’s rights are human rights.’ If one accepts this statement as true then there needs to be a realigning of priorities for women’s groups. For quite awhile many women’s groups have slowly become political organizations with a platform similar to those of a political party. Yet by doing this (as some race-based groups have also done) they have narrowed their reach and effectiveness. By imposing a set of political standards on the membership of a group the implication is that if you are a woman there is the list of things you must believe. That’s not equality, and while their intentions may be good, these groups that sum up a person by either gender or race are doing exactly the opposite of what was the original goal of said organization. Oddly enough the successes of these groups has rendered them irrelevant.
No place is this more evident than when addressing the issue of abortion. Many genuinely see abortion as the ‘taking of a life,’ and therefore feel obligated to speak out against it. They go up against those who perceive pro-lifers as trying to restrict the rights of women. This creates a tremendous clash. Yet this isn’t the stark issue that some have made it out to be. The reality is that some on the left and on the right have used rhetoric to help radicalize the debate, making it a huge wedge issue. True equality and freedom for women will exist when pro-choice translates to free-choice and each woman is free to make her own decision without having it imposed on her.
Therefore a modern effective woman’s group needs to depoliticize itself from conventional party politics and from automatically aligning with a particular party. Our rights and needs cannot be subordinated to any male-defined agenda as those agendas have always marginalized us. Women are free to believe in woman’s equality, and think abortion is wrong. Women are also free to believe that choice is their right. This holds for other issues too. It is up to the individual to decide where they stand on economics, foreign policy, and the like; it is not up to this group to determine the thoughts and beliefs of its members. This group is charged with standing up for women against sexist attacks regardless of political belief and/or background. It is the task of this group to stand up for the dignity and respect of women and to stand up human rights as a whole.
Thank you very much for this blog defending Sarah.
PUMAs are appreciated by Sarah and I am glad that PUMAs see thru Obama’s scheme!!
Sarah is a new breed of feminist and she won’t put up with the D.C. elitist Good ‘Ole Boys’ club.
I’m only 24 and haven’t been out of college long, but I did not drink the kool-aid passed around my university and I wish more college student wouldn’t feed into the liberal socialist movement that the liberal professors try to indoctrinate students.
I had never heard of Women Count until reading this blog. It is clear it is just another name for another women’s liberal group like NOW who only speak up for liberal women. Also reminiscent of ACORN and CREW all left wing groups giving the outward appearance of neutrality, but very heavily funded and supported by liberals. Just drop the charade Women Count and it won’t matter. It is the disguise that makes you spurious.
That is my gripe too. Be up front and no one will complaine – just don’t say you are a women’s group- ask for money and ask all women to run saying you will support all women then attack one who runs and say ” she sets women back, that she has disappointed us, embarrassed us, and worse, that she reflects badly on all women”
Any group doing that is a real disgrace to all women.
Was asked to come over from Team Sarah and leave a response. I guess my question would be why do women feel they need a woman’s group to be a woman. I have worked in the male world for so long and realize what is about is respect. I am tired of abortion being used by the so called feminists as a call to arms. I can do everything a man can do and most of the time do it better. Like Sarah I have a family. Belong to the NRA do a man’s so called job and can also bring home my own dinner. I could care less if I am called a feminist but am comfortable in my own skin and with the talents I was born with. I believe Sarah believes that to. So are we women or not. I don’t want to be defined by a group but by myself.
Well Badger- you are my kind of Gal – I am so glad you came – I want these women to see what kind of women Team Sarah has over there- I am on Team Sarah too.
As for yout question as to why we need to be on a team – we do and its for this very reason– we need each other at times like this. We are under attack both from men and from other women. We need better representation in the government- and we need the media to treat us with respect.
I am sick and tired of fighting alone.
You – like me- are tough some of our sisters are not and many are not in jobs where they can stand up for themselves. They need us.
And quite frankly – you are on Team Sarah for a reason – a group is always stronger as a group.
So thanks you for comming and please please come again and often and bring others.
It is high time these liberal groups stop labeling the rest of us as loonies to the far right instead of valueing us a respectable women who deserve respect for our rights too.
I am a proud independent – and I will not tolerate any group- governemnt or media talking about Hillary- sarah or any other woman from any party as if she were dirt.
Every woman is valuable. Please come again and bring friends- we can stop them if we unite.
Team Sarah is not so much a group of women but a huge think tank of men and women. We share ideas,values and the latest news. I value them as some of my dearest friends and have not met one of them. We have very little infighting but are there to promote one cause and that is Sarah. I would not mind being involved with a group of women who even if we do not share the same ideals but want to further not so much women’s rights per se but to let people know we are more than mother’s ,daughter’s and wives. My husband was in the military for 26 years and on deployments for half of that. I am way independent and do not feel I need to conform to any stereotype of how I should be. If you find a group like that let me know
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Look out. Palin just got out of the trap set for her by the good old boy network of both parties. Game on. This is one women you can’t mess with.
I agree John- Palin took herself out of the target zone- now if they continue this attack – they do so at their own peril. the joke is not on them.
Letterman is at it again and this time – no one is biting! She has gone fishing